BareBack Jack

James B,
The 338 win dose not shot as fast as the 300 Win[:-][:-].Well lets see.
Published FPS from Federal
180 BT 300 win mag @ muzzle 2970
180 bt 338 win @ muzzle 3120
300WM 200 TBBC@ muzzle 2700 fps Ft/lbs 3238
338WM 210 Nosler @ muzzle 2830 Ft/lbs 3735
As for trajectory 200 yds sight in
200 gr 300 WM @ 400 yds -26
210gr 338 WM @ 400 Yds -23

I know I know they are close but the .338 clearly outshines the 300 just due the use of heavier bullets.
I mean come on a 250 gr Nosler your not goning to be shootin 500 yds with.But when the chips are down the 250 gr nosler is a great 300 yds bullet.
This factory loading and if you hand load you can get more out of both.
The 338 dose not hit as hard as the 375 H&H but the 375 still is not as fast or flat.
A 250 gr bullet from both hit @ 3958 for the H&H
and 3929 for the .338 win. still awful close.
Ok enough of my ramblings.
BBJ

James B

True but the 308 caliber bullet of that weight has a much higher SD and BC. You are comparing a heavy weight for calber bullet to a light weight for caliber bullet. Its fine by me that the 338 has its supporters, I far prefer the 375 for game thats big and mean. I also prefer a lighter faster round for long range or game smaller than moose and bears. Its not like I never used the 338 because I have. Just not my idea of of a caliber suited for either deer size or grizzly size game. Just as many think that the 270 and 7mm-08 are to light for elk, its a matter of expierence and preference I have proved my oppinions to myself and in the end, thats what matters.The 338 is fine for elk but has not proved to me that it will outperform the 300 for that purpose. The elk I have shot with the 270 size rounds have gone down like a bag of rocks so I never could see the need for more blast and recoil than I needed.

BareBack Jack

True I was slanted some on that comparison.I'm not upset by all means.
I think the 300 and the .338 all have a nich in the hunting realm.I like the 300 Win but prefer the Super 300's to it.I like the good o'le 375 H&H put realy it is quite a bit gun for 90 lb pronghorns(not that I wouldn't like to use it on one).But for me the .338 is a happy medium between the 300 and the.375.
True I have not had any experiance shooting Kodiak's or big Grizz,but I know the .338 is more than capeble of taking one.But I have a another gun for them when I get the chance(416 Rem Mag 400 gr TBBC).So I realy don't have a need for the .375 H&Heven though it is proven game stopper.
So thats my reasoning for the .338 it's a happy medium,between a good hunting rifle and a true blue dangerous game rifle.
BBJ

Hunter4life81

ok now i'm kinda having doubts on the caliber i chose. I have been thinking that the 338 is kinda big for the game i hunt and the 7mag to me fits in to the game i hunt(elk, moose,black bear and,mostly muledeer) shots would be with in (25-350yrds) and i have been thinking and thinking and thinking and now i'm extremly confused on wich to choose[&:], i would like your opinion plz, and another reason y i chose the 7mag was b/c in the remingtion model 710 the gun i belive is $329 (around taht area) and the 338 in a synthetic stock, stainless steelbarrel howa is $429, And they both have Scopes 3x9 -40 or something like that, so i kinda want your opinion on which to choose (i already chose i just want to know what your opinion is and i will c if mine is the same)

Hunter4life81

and Another reason is that my best hunting partner in the world that i have been hunting since i was 6 years old , is my dad he says that for being 15yrs old the 338 is to much gun for me and the 7mag for my age is a good dependable gun that fits me perfect(my wieght age etc...), and is "almost" identicle to a 300wm when it comes to ballistics. And beign that i do take long shots at times and have been sucesfull (with a 30-30 @ 200yrds) i don't know what to chose?????? i kinda want your opinion on which to choose (i already chose i just want to know what your opinion is and i will c if mine is the same)

James B

Given the choice between the 7MM Mag and the 338, I would take the 7 Mag. I would not consider it for grizzly hunting or Polar bears but since the 270 has taken those animals, I quess the 7 Mag would to. I like the 280 better than the 7 Mag but the final choice will have to be yours. I never noticed a lot more recoil from the 338 than I did with the 7 Mag. I went through five seven Mags trying to like them. Never happened. though.

FastShootingCarts

Another vote for 7mm Mag.

rick_reno

I've got an old Sako (AV) in 338 - don't shoot it much. It's a good round but it can beat you up at the range.

HighDesertWolf

I hate saying this as I am a remington patron....... Also you mentioned you would like a gun that will last you into your adult years. I would deffiantely choose that Howa before buying a remington 710. Even though the Howa's are made over seas they are well built and overall excellent rifles a buddy of mine has one of there stainless sporter rifles with the laminate thumbole stock in 30-06, the first time he shot it it grouped less then a inch at 100 yards with 150 grain winchester power point ammo, very impressive. Another friend of mine has a remington 710 in 270 its accuracy was not very impressive at all no matter what he fed it the best he could group with it was 2 inches at 100 yards, My friend thinking it was him and not the rifle he asked me to shoot it and the best I could do with it was a 1.5 inch at 100 yards.

IMO the 710 is plain and simply a rifle for someone who shoots their rifle twice a year, the weekend before deer season and at the deer during season. also IMO i think you would be much better off with a 7mm rem mag over the 338 win mag because 1 ammo is cheaper 2 its plenty of gun and then some for the game you listed.

I personally have not used anything larger then a 30-06 for those same game animals you listed and have had just as good of experience with my 308 on the same also.

338

It seems the 7mm is the way to go for you but whatever you DO NOT SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED $$ ON THE 710. They are a very cheaply made piece. Everybody chambers the 7mm and bet you can get one from Howa if that is the piece you like..