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Old 05-23-2005, 05:50 PM
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:39 PM
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There are several mechanical techniques used to make a weapon fire full-auto by design. With a weapon that fires from a "closed bolt position" (meaning that the bolt rests in the closed position when the weapons is not being fired) like the M-16 variants, there is usually a second full-auto sear that holds the hammer/striker back until the bolt is in, or very close to being in battery (locked closed). When the auto sear releases the hammer determines the "timing" of the gun, and in the case of most assault rifles and SMGs is fixed. The timing of some machineguns (the Browning M2 .50cal is an example) is user adjustable and needs to be correctly set for the gun to cycle reliably. In the case of the M-16A2, there is a little tab that sticks up from the lower reciever that is tripped when the bolt carrier goes into battery which releases the auto sear. The semi-auto sear is held back by the trigger. Another notable difference with the A2 is the presence of the "burst cam" which limits the rifle to three round bursts.

"Open bolt" weapons (where the trigger sear locks the bolt to the rear, and releases the bolt when the trigger is pulled), mostly crew-served machineguns like the M60A3, M249SAW, M240G, MK-19, and certain SMG's like the UZI, use a striker mechanism or fixed firing pin that fired the gun as the bolt slams shut. Open bolt weapons are usually full-auto only.

I don't think that you intend to convert a rifle to full-auto, but if you are, don't. It's not worth the legal reprecussions, and to be honest, full-auto weapons are worthless for doing any more than wasting a lot of ammo really fast unless you are laying in a fighting hole with a range card, a field-of-fire diagram, PDF's and a final protective fire plan.

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Old 05-24-2005, 04:57 AM
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There's a 'not fun' way to make a semiauto into a full auto- take an SKS, gum the firing pin up with grease, and fire some federal ammo through it. It will probably go full auto when you least expect it by slamfiring.

Note: don't, do not even think of doing this on purpose. Its a way you can easily get seriously injured or killed if the rifle fires out of battery.


full-auto weapons are worthless for doing any more than wasting a lot of ammo
But you forgot the reason why most people buy Full Auto weapons- for pure fun! Sure they waste a lot of expensive ammo, but you can't put a price tag on the pure orgasmic joy of hosing a pile of lead down range. Well I guess you can put a price tag on it, its in the tens of thousands of dollars.[:@]
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:46 AM
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hi briman, i have to agree with you on that nothing like full auto. its almost more satisfying than sex M-60'S are a real treat gets the blood pumping when you squeeze the trigger on that monster and watch it chew the lead up.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:12 PM
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I guess that my opinion is based on the fact that I have fired probably close to 50,000 rounds of ammo out of several different full-auto weapons systems while I was in the service, and it just doesn't have much appeal for me anymore.

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Old 05-24-2005, 07:07 PM
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:52 PM
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I'm confused. Is fully auto legal in the US? I'm a Canadian boy and its not up here but i always see clips of guys with full auto guns in the US.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:08 PM
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I'm confused. Is fully auto legal in the US? I'm a Canadian boy and its not up here but i always see clips of guys with full auto guns in the US.
It is perfectly legal, as long as you have the right license to own them. It is VERY expensive and hard to get one though.
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Old 05-25-2005, 05:40 AM
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I knew a guy with a class 3 ffl which is the permit needed to own automatics, it took him nearly 5 years to finally be approved, and has to renew it i believe every year not to mention what it costs, also the paper work you have to sign you are practically throwing all your rights of any kind of privacy from the ATF out the window. If you ask me its not worth it at all, I also have to agree with driftrider after you get it out of your system it loses its appeal rather quickly.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:49 AM
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You only need a $200 tax stamp to have a FA weapon transferred to you to make it legal to own.
Unfortunately, legally transferable weapons are limited in number and no more can be legally manufactured, a FA M16A1 or a H&K MP5 will run you about $15,000, while an AK-47, M2 carbine, M3 grease gun or Sten will run around $10,000, while machine guns such as and M60, M2, MG34, MG 42 will run you $20,000-50,000 and up.

There is another level of FA weapons called dealer samples, which are much cheaper, usually less than $5000. To possess these, you need a clas III dealer license and these samples can only be transferred between dealers.

The last level is law enforcement samples, which can only be transferred to law enforcement agencies- noone else gets to play with these.
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