oldelkhunter

Gosh were has the love gone?

James B

In doing a little checking, I see that Hornady ammo loads a 300 grain load at 2200+ fps. The 45-70 can do this as well but the 405 bullet would have the edge in SD.

mossy33oak

you see.....this is the kind of info I was hoping for, take some notes bigboy (king of the 30-30)

biscuit jake

My local Scheel's has both a #1 in 405 & 45-70. They are charging a heftier price for the 405, so they are betting that it will be a collector! The barrel is heavier than the 45 70. Ballistic potential for both is there. Wouldn't want to be in the way of either.

mossy33oak

so......what is the price? I thought Cabelas was OUTRAGEOUS in their price of $799 for a USED gun. Heck I checked on gunbroker and a guy had the exact gun brand new for $750 and I think gunbroker is high anyway.

biscuit jake

The 45 70 runs $650; the 405 $800, last time I checked. They have a 416 Rigby going for 800 as well.

drfatguy

A couple of months ago John Barness did an article on the .405 in Handloader. Out of the Ruger drove a 300 grain bullet at 2300 fps (factory) and a 400 Woodleigh at 2087 fps. This is cape buffalo country. The reason the .405 is the same price as the .416 is they are both Tropical guns where the .45/70 isn't. Craig Bodington and his daughter used a .405 in a #1 with the 300 grain factory loads to kill buffalo in Australia. 2000 lb buffalo were dispatched. With the 400 grain bullet one would have a cartridge with similar ballistics as the .450/400 3 1/4". This cartridge has been used on elephants. The better sectional density of the .405 would help it penetrate better. I'd get both just cause no one can have too many different calibers.

Dr Fatguy

Mike from Texas

THe .405 Winchester was Teddy Roosevelts caliber of choice. Most guns will be collectors items at some point. I think Hornady is the only ammo mfg offering rounds for it.

Rebel Hog

Mike, that's why Mossy wants one.[:-]

mossy33oak

collectors item????? unheard of!!!!! Mossy dont buy guns to keep for collectors items, I keep em to kill s##t with!!!!! You will never find a gun in my collection that is "unfired" or hangs on the mantle because its too pretty.