Sako
#11
RE: Sako
I seriously doubt had he won a Ferrari that you guys would be encouraging him to sell it!
Regarding powder efficiency. Do you deny that a WSM can produce as much or more velocity/grain of powder than its standard mag counterpart? The numbers don't lie. I know that I couldn't affort $75/box for ammo. I buy guns to shoot them, and at $75/box it'd sit in the safe. What's the barrel life expectancy with a .30-378? 500 shots? That's 10 trips to the range for me. Like I said, I like to shoot my rifles, and won't own one that won't be shot regularly at the range. It's a matter of personal preference. The fastest .30cal I'd even consider is the .300 RUM, and I doubt I'd ever buy one since my .300 WSM is enough gun for my needs. Like I said, if he doesn't mind spending the case to feed that beast, and doesn't mind feeling like he's been slapped upside the head by muzzleblast and punched in the shoulder with recoil, then more power to him. It's just not my kindof rifle. I'd sell it straight away and buy a Sako 75 in a lighter, more reasonable cartridge. That's my preference.
Mike
#12
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 2,052
RE: Sako
lol you guys crack me up!
'drift theres no denying the efficiency of the short mags. I was just bringing up the point that such concerns shouldn't be applicable to cartridges like ANY of the "super mags". They aren't bought with consideration too ammo costs, getting the most from small amounts of powder, etc etc... They are bought to be shot at LONG ranges, to kill like lightning and the grandest of ALL American reasons... just because you can!
500 round barrel life expectancy? Come on, theres no reason why you can't get 1500-2000 rounds out of that barrel. Sure if you go too the range and bang away box after box of ammo and get the barrel so hot you can see the bullet go down it. But ANY gun will do that when treated as such and if you like to put mega rounds through a rifle every weekend then you probably already own a .223 or a .308 and feed it surplus military ammo. Practice with the EXACT gun doesn't matter as much as repeated practice and proper form. The smaller, cheaper rounds can be used for that.. Super Mags are like that proverbial Ferrari, tempermental, more expensive to own and operate and built for limited use. BUT that limited use is done SOOOOOOO well it makes everything else worth it. I'm not telling the guy to sell everything else and stick solely with his new TRG-S. I'm recommending that if he has a need or desire for a long range "thumper" then by all means give it a whirl.
As for the "brutal recoil" I just don't see it! With a brake they are easier than ANY standard deer rifle you probably already have in your collection. I recommend muffs while on the range and Game Ears while in the field. To be honest I wish I would've started protecting my hearing 20 years ago with ALL my guns.
Good luck,
RA
'drift theres no denying the efficiency of the short mags. I was just bringing up the point that such concerns shouldn't be applicable to cartridges like ANY of the "super mags". They aren't bought with consideration too ammo costs, getting the most from small amounts of powder, etc etc... They are bought to be shot at LONG ranges, to kill like lightning and the grandest of ALL American reasons... just because you can!
500 round barrel life expectancy? Come on, theres no reason why you can't get 1500-2000 rounds out of that barrel. Sure if you go too the range and bang away box after box of ammo and get the barrel so hot you can see the bullet go down it. But ANY gun will do that when treated as such and if you like to put mega rounds through a rifle every weekend then you probably already own a .223 or a .308 and feed it surplus military ammo. Practice with the EXACT gun doesn't matter as much as repeated practice and proper form. The smaller, cheaper rounds can be used for that.. Super Mags are like that proverbial Ferrari, tempermental, more expensive to own and operate and built for limited use. BUT that limited use is done SOOOOOOO well it makes everything else worth it. I'm not telling the guy to sell everything else and stick solely with his new TRG-S. I'm recommending that if he has a need or desire for a long range "thumper" then by all means give it a whirl.
As for the "brutal recoil" I just don't see it! With a brake they are easier than ANY standard deer rifle you probably already have in your collection. I recommend muffs while on the range and Game Ears while in the field. To be honest I wish I would've started protecting my hearing 20 years ago with ALL my guns.
Good luck,
RA
#13
RE: Sako
They aren't bought with consideration too ammo costs, getting the most from small amounts of powder, etc etc... They are bought to be shot at LONG ranges, to kill like lightning and the grandest of ALL American reasons... just because you can!
Mike
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Posts: 359
RE: Sako
GIVE IT A REST DRIFT,
All you cry about is recoil recoil, Like I said earlier, I hear Daisy has a great gun out there.
LAPPER, (the reason this thread exists)
Question 1: It is a 378 case necked down to a 30 cal bullet. It has the best ballistics out there on a 30 cal gun.
Question 2: If you want a long range gun and can afford to shoot it then hold on to it. Ammo $60-100 per box. If you are broke then sell it. If you got a jingle in your pocket put a good scope on it and let er fly. It will be a lot of fun shooting it and practicing at long ranges. It does have some kick, if it doesn't have a muzzle brake, put one on it. A 270 kicks more than that will WITH A BRAKE. Game ears in the field for any gun. The muzzle blast is a breeze of air that you will feel. If you're and idiot (drift) and stand next right next to the barrel then it will blow you over.
Question 3: You can kill any big game in NA with it. I am taking my Weatherby 30-378 mule deer hunting. Too much gun maybe. At 4-600 yds: NO: I am practicing weekly at long ranges.
Hope this helps
All you cry about is recoil recoil, Like I said earlier, I hear Daisy has a great gun out there.
LAPPER, (the reason this thread exists)
ORIGINAL: lapper
I JUST WON A SAKO TRG-S 30-378 . CAN ANY BODY GIVE ME INFORMATION ON THIS GUN AND CALIBER. IS IT A GUN I SHOULD HOLD ON TO, OR SHOULD I TRY TO SELL IT? WHAT KIND OF GAME WOULD IT BE GOOD FOR ? THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
I JUST WON A SAKO TRG-S 30-378 . CAN ANY BODY GIVE ME INFORMATION ON THIS GUN AND CALIBER. IS IT A GUN I SHOULD HOLD ON TO, OR SHOULD I TRY TO SELL IT? WHAT KIND OF GAME WOULD IT BE GOOD FOR ? THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
Question 2: If you want a long range gun and can afford to shoot it then hold on to it. Ammo $60-100 per box. If you are broke then sell it. If you got a jingle in your pocket put a good scope on it and let er fly. It will be a lot of fun shooting it and practicing at long ranges. It does have some kick, if it doesn't have a muzzle brake, put one on it. A 270 kicks more than that will WITH A BRAKE. Game ears in the field for any gun. The muzzle blast is a breeze of air that you will feel. If you're and idiot (drift) and stand next right next to the barrel then it will blow you over.
Question 3: You can kill any big game in NA with it. I am taking my Weatherby 30-378 mule deer hunting. Too much gun maybe. At 4-600 yds: NO: I am practicing weekly at long ranges.
Hope this helps
#16
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 16
RE: Sako
Barrel eater??? Now really, what in the world is that? Who cares how much powder it burns?
Come on, theres no reason why you can't get 1500-2000 rounds out of that barrel.
Don
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pine Hill Alabama USA
Posts: 1,280
RE: Sako
If you'd rather have something a bit more practical, you could always sell it for a quick $1000-1200 and buy yourself a nice Sako 75 in a more reasonable cartridge.