zrexpilot

All I can do, as chuck did, is give my opinion. The Beamer is a lame excuse as a sportbike. Call it what you want. Its too slow to be a hyperbike, doent have the handling of a sport bike, unrefined as a sport tourer, guess it needs its own class. I am sorry your dead set on it, at 19K there are much better choices at far better prices.
I currently race about 5 different bikes, my personal one makes 250+ hp on the spray.
I do have a bit of exp. in this department.

stubblejumper

Because BMW never intended it to be a sport tourer,contrary to chuckhawks opinion.That was my point in the first place.

Apparently you didn't read my last post,or you would have seen:

I was in the market for a sport touring bike,so I never even considered the K1200S,since it was never designed to be a sport tourer,and would make a very poor sport tourer as a result.

I bought the R1200RSTand after recently completing a 4500km trip through the mountains,I am very pleased with my purchase.It isn't as fast or as light as many sport bikes,but it is lighter and handles better than many other sport touring bikes,while still having plenty of fuel range and luggage capacity for longer trips.

I was never in the market for a race bike,so I could care less about 250hp or nitrous,since neither would be of any use for touring or for riding the twisty mountain roads.

Experience racing 250hp nitrous bikes is worthless to someone in the market for a sport touring bike.

zrexpilot

Like I said in my opinion, its definatley not a sport bike and falls the way of sport tourer more than anything.



I missed that part, I'm glad your happy with what you bought.


My exp on bikes spans more than 30 yrs. I do have a clue about them.
Your opening statement was about the S model, and you didnt agree with Chuck, I do , that bike is no sport bike.

stubblejumper

According to you and Chuckhawks,but according to the ten other sources that I posted links to,as well as dozens more that I found but didn't post links to,the K1200S does fall into the sport bike category.

keylargo

I bet Hawks is thrilled that people see fit to argue over him to this extent. It almostmakes me want to spend money to read all of his opinions. Well maby not!

zrexpilot

lets see.

shaft drive
abs brakes
electronically controlled suspension.
61.5" wheelbase ( longer than a HD sporster )
duolever front suspension
optional bags
optional GPS
optional heated grips

Its a sport tourer in my book. Several of the sport tourers put this bike in to the weeds as far as handling is concerned.
So sport bike it aint.

stubblejumper

The HP2 Sport Has shaft drive and Optional abs,so does that mean that it isn't a sport bike?

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/bikes/bike.jsp?b=2008hp2sport&bikeSection=hp


The k1200s is also available without electronic suspension.

The very same tiny bags that are available on the r1200s.

Both are also available on the r1200s which also has abs and shaft drive,an onboard computer,anti theft,gps,tire pressure monitor,anti theft,and the very same small bags as the K1200S.I suppose in your opinion the r1200s is also not a sport bike?

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/bikes/...eSection=sport

But then again,heated grips and gps can be installed on almost any bike without in any way making it handle or perform any less sporty.




A book that wouldn't likely sell very well.

Sheridan

Stubblejumper/ZREXPILOT,
I don'tmean to prolong a discussion of motercycles on HuntingNet,com but as long as we have your creative juices flowing.
Please comment on the NEW Kawasaki "Dual Purpose" KLX 250S asan on/off road bike.

Thanks guys!!!

stubblejumper

I personally haven't ridden one,or even seen one in person,so I won't even give an opinion on that particular model.As far as 250cc dual purpose bikes go in general,I have ridden several,and found them good for city transportation as well as on dirt roads and in fairly tame off roading.They don't have the power that I need to feel comfortable on the highway,and they aren't well suited for tougher off road conditions.It all depends on your intended usage.

zrexpilot

That about sums it up, its not a dirt bike and its not a street bike, it does a little of both.
Not much power on the highway, prolly has a top speed of 80, if that.
But man oh man, when I was 15 I had a dual purpose KE 175 and I went everywhere on that thing.
Those were the days, I had more fun on that thing back then than I do now on bikes 6 times as large.
I will tell you one thing ,that 4 stroke motor is about undestructible as they come, that thing will run forever.