salukipv1

So apparently winchester rifles are back! and why they don't offer the .375H&H illudes me, mass marketing?

Just my opinion but the model 70 is ideal dangerous game action, one of the main reasons I want a winchester in the first place, great action built for an african rifle.....and I don't forsee them chambering a .416 or .458, so at least a .375, and cmon a .375H&H has to be more popular than a .416 or .458.

And btw just in case they are thinking of a 416 or 458, they should make it a .416 Ruger, and a .458 Lott, please no .458 win mag.

Pioneer2

Better yet a .416 Taylor! FL size .458 brass and and get .416 Rigby power in a shorter case.400gr at 2400fps.................................Harold

mudtutl

Maybe their tooling to offer the 375 RCM....

oldelkhunter

It is not the ideal dangerous game action in a bolt a square bridge mauser built for that action length is superior to the model 70, it will have larger dimensions and handle that cartridge length correctly. With a model 70 you are using the same action as what would be used with an 06 just bolt stop and magazine modified. A fellow that goes to my gunsmith has every DGR 70 ever made in 375,458, 416 Remington(as per him the 416 is totally unreliable in that action.) An ideal DGR would be a Double rifle.


I think the fact the 375RCM can be used in a standard action length Ruger and will be cheaperwill keep WInchester from making many 375's.

salukipv1

I do know the .416 rem I think had some jamming problems back in the day, really not a fan of the .416 rem, but a the .375H&H and .458 Lott are clear choices,

The .375 Ruger, and a .416 Ruger would be a great round I think.

I'd be surprised if they offered anything over .375, I just really want a model 70 in .375, the fact that they don't offer one is kinda surprising to me. I know probably way more guys want 300's, but the model 70 action is a great reason to buy a big game cartridge.....ie .375

and of course a double rifle is the way to go......course I'm not sure how many guys are willing to go from $1500 to $15,000! for a cheap double? only alternative is a mauser 98, or model 70 action ....so for now a bolt action will have to do......not ready for that double just yet.

Scott Gags

The Model 70 action has a proven track record of performancewith African game cartridges. But if you want new and mauser claw extractor and have an extra $3,000.00this looks pretty sweet.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/africa-alaska/8400_caprivi/79/

The 458 lottrecoil in an 8.5 pound gun might not make it all day shooter at the range though.

oldelkhunter

Depends on the cartridge Scot not many have been chambered in 416 Rigby have they among others?You fail to grasp that it is a standard action that is used to chamber oversize rounds just like the overpriced Kimber that also has a standard action. I'll give you a list of Actions that one can buy over the counter that will work with all big game African cartridges and that doesn't cost over 1000 dollars. CZ 550 Safari Magnum and a Ruger RSM

Scott Gags

Old elk I understood your point in the first post with regard to action length not being ideal in your opinion. I just was stating thatdespite its length it has been proven reliable on many hunts by many hunters for many years.Was neverreally saying it is "the best"

salukipv1

Scene it,

looks ok, though the ruger, and the cz fancy grade both look nicer IMO.

though that Dakota is looking really sweet.

salukipv1

Standard length action vs. longer actions, ie .375h&h?

Less you're modifying an older action/rifle, who cares? many rifle makers chamber the .375H&H so whats the matter if its a longer action?