What do I need ??
#1
Spike
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7
What do I need ??
I am new to crossbow hunting. I have hunted big game all over the US and Canada with rifles. No archery experience. This crossbow thing will be a new adventure. I have done lots of research, and spent time at a Cabelas indoor range trying out different crossbows. I have decided on an Excalibur Matrix 380. I think the 18" diablo bolts and 150 gr. Bolt Cutter broadheads will be my hunting gear. My question - what else do I need to get started : proper targets, wax, device to remove arrows from the target, equipment to change the string, extra bolts (how many show I buy to get started) etc. I went with the Excalibur and fixed blade broadheads for simplicity and ease of care.
#2
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: U.P. of Michigan
Posts: 164
You will find a cornucopia of stuff you can buy, but.... You can get by with a 1/2 dozen or so arrows with some field tips for practice Broadheads, of course; how many is up to you. A good target to stop the arrows, I suggest a Spyderweb target; it is made for the fast heavy crossbows. A good scope , preferably one with three aiming points so you can shoot accurately a varying distances, (a Hawk Xb30 with lighted reticles is a great scope)a quiver that mounts to the bow is nice but not a necessity. Some good string wax and probably an extra string. Excalibur makes a handy stringing assistor which makes stringing fairly easy and also allows you to uncock the bow if you need to do it. Depending on where you live you will need a case to transport your bow. Rail lube is also nice to have, make sure you get a quality product made for crossbows. I strongly suggest you make a phone call to David at Wyvern Creations He can help you immensely. Be the best phone call you can make 603-659-0575
Last edited by OneBear; 05-23-2014 at 01:13 PM.
#4
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: U.P. of Michigan
Posts: 164
You runs an internet based archery shop ( Wyvern Creations) He is the greatest guy you could ever talk to about archery I thinks he has forgotten more the most people know Super helpful, great prices and one helluva a good guy.
#5
U don't need much...
I have three bolts loaded with Muzzies.
I always say don't spend so much on a new crossbow
You can get the same amount of enjoyment and effectiveness out of any 150-180 Lb budget bow
My sets a Barnett 150, it's older. But it cost $100 and is a killing machine. Pass throughs on every deer it's ever been pointed at. 150lbs on crossbow is = to a 75lb bow in general
I promise you they try to fool you with glam.
Were all ur big game hunts diy? lol I had to
I have three bolts loaded with Muzzies.
I always say don't spend so much on a new crossbow
You can get the same amount of enjoyment and effectiveness out of any 150-180 Lb budget bow
My sets a Barnett 150, it's older. But it cost $100 and is a killing machine. Pass throughs on every deer it's ever been pointed at. 150lbs on crossbow is = to a 75lb bow in general
I promise you they try to fool you with glam.
Were all ur big game hunts diy? lol I had to
#6
Spike
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7
I'll give Dave a call. Thanks OneBear. Yes, my hunts are DIY (although some were drop camps). Wife hunts too, so planning vacations is easy - drawing tags is sometimes a challenge. When all else fails, we buy late season cow elk tags from landowners.
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
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My opinion is that you made a wise choice selecting a fixed broadhead. I have never had one iota of a problem with a fixed blade design.
As for "extra", here's what I carry to the woods. I carry a small diamond grit file to sharpen the edges of my boradheads should I need to. I have one bolt is equipped with a obviously different colored vanes than my broad head bolts and it has a field point attached. This is the bolt I use to "un-load" the cross bow when the hunt is over. I also carry a cocking rope, a small tube of rail/string lube, and two extra broadheads.
In my experience the cross bow differs from the "vertical" bow in that you will need to be very concious of side-to-side clearance so that you avoid slapping a limb against a branch, or a shooting house wall, etc.
I have found no perceptable difference in lethal distance. That could be in part because I limited myself to shots in about the 40-45 yards range.
The other major difference is that I cannot perceive how a cross bow hunter would have the chance at a second shot should the first be a miss. Every cross bow that I have ever shot, including my Parker Tornado, is very loud compared to a quality compound bow, to a recurve or to a stick bow. In every case, if I missed or if there were other deer with the one I shot, they have left the area, post haste ! Besides all of the movement needed to re-cock and load the cross bow is a great deal more than simply re-knocking an arrow and making a second draw.
The advantage is obvious .... not having to draw and hold. That can be done as soon as you are set in the stand. Plus for a long time user of a long gun, the "rifle-stock" design of the cross bow is very familiar and elimiates a lot of form issues that can creap into other archery hunting.
A last but not least, I cannot emphasize enough that you must keep your hand/fingers away from the string. I have seen first had the damage that can be done when the string whips across a person's finger or thumb.
As for "extra", here's what I carry to the woods. I carry a small diamond grit file to sharpen the edges of my boradheads should I need to. I have one bolt is equipped with a obviously different colored vanes than my broad head bolts and it has a field point attached. This is the bolt I use to "un-load" the cross bow when the hunt is over. I also carry a cocking rope, a small tube of rail/string lube, and two extra broadheads.
In my experience the cross bow differs from the "vertical" bow in that you will need to be very concious of side-to-side clearance so that you avoid slapping a limb against a branch, or a shooting house wall, etc.
I have found no perceptable difference in lethal distance. That could be in part because I limited myself to shots in about the 40-45 yards range.
The other major difference is that I cannot perceive how a cross bow hunter would have the chance at a second shot should the first be a miss. Every cross bow that I have ever shot, including my Parker Tornado, is very loud compared to a quality compound bow, to a recurve or to a stick bow. In every case, if I missed or if there were other deer with the one I shot, they have left the area, post haste ! Besides all of the movement needed to re-cock and load the cross bow is a great deal more than simply re-knocking an arrow and making a second draw.
The advantage is obvious .... not having to draw and hold. That can be done as soon as you are set in the stand. Plus for a long time user of a long gun, the "rifle-stock" design of the cross bow is very familiar and elimiates a lot of form issues that can creap into other archery hunting.
A last but not least, I cannot emphasize enough that you must keep your hand/fingers away from the string. I have seen first had the damage that can be done when the string whips across a person's finger or thumb.
Last edited by Mojotex; 05-27-2014 at 03:00 PM.
#9
I'd love to travel around NA with my bow and my woman.
You're livin the dream friend.
Why are you interested in crossbow over vertical bow?
#10
Spike
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7
westMDbowhunter - thanks for your input. I am unable to draw a regular bow - I am not able to pull off that motion. 36 years in law enforcement : left shoulder broken 1995, right shoulder broken 1999. major injury lower back 2005 - surgery and lots of rehab for each event. Retirement was welcome two years ago !!