Zwickey Grappler Tip
#1
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: arkansas
Posts: 3,147
Zwickey Grappler Tip
If you use these neat lil gizmo's, be sure to test your setup. On my Phoenix, they were sliding up onto the vanes in flight and yes, I had the right size. The fix is a small rubber "O" ring behind the grappler. W/ my Emax, they are a waste of time and $. They work great for me at about 290 fps and w/ the Max at 330, they blow right through the bird. You Ecet guys are gonna be somewhere inbetween. I found no change in poi at 30 and they weigh about 20 gr, this is w/ Slick Trick 100 gr bheads.
#3
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 299
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
I do alot of small game hunting with a bow and use the judo points, one of the main reasons I like them is that the tip grabs the ground in the case of a miss and stops the arrow fairly fast, which keeps you from hunting lost arrows...
I've never used those grapplers, although they're pretty much the same design except that the judos' fingers are fixed to the tip and the grapplers slide up the shaft,how do they perform with an impact with the ground/brush?
Iwouldnt mind giving them a try but I've always been king of skeptical of them, the last thing I want is the grappler stripping my feathers off as it slides up the arrow...
I've never used those grapplers, although they're pretty much the same design except that the judos' fingers are fixed to the tip and the grapplers slide up the shaft,how do they perform with an impact with the ground/brush?
Iwouldnt mind giving them a try but I've always been king of skeptical of them, the last thing I want is the grappler stripping my feathers off as it slides up the arrow...
#4
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 36
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
Last spring a guy my Dad was guiding rented my Exomax crossbow to shoot a turkey. I had grapplers on behind wasp sst mech broadheads. The arrow blew right through the turkey and the grappler slid up the shaft(leaving scratches on the graphite all the way) stripped two of the vanes off and the third was beyond repair. That mangled vane would probably have occured anyway with a pass through.
#5
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Canning, Ontario. Canada
Posts: 974
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
A washer is a great idea!
I use needle nose pliers and give a slight squeeze to the ring that keeps the 4 pieces together, makes it a bit tougher to get on over the field point but stays in place much better on impact.
Now I just need to figure out how to use them with broadheads, every time I try to slide on over my Slick Trickto get one on I cut my finger.
I use needle nose pliers and give a slight squeeze to the ring that keeps the 4 pieces together, makes it a bit tougher to get on over the field point but stays in place much better on impact.
Now I just need to figure out how to use them with broadheads, every time I try to slide on over my Slick Trickto get one on I cut my finger.
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Chapmansboro Tn.
Posts: 121
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
As mentioned in org. post by Awshucks, if you put a rubber "O" ring behind the grappler it won't take the fletching's off as the grappler will only go about half way up the shaft. I shoot a phoenix and use a #5 o-ring---3/8 OD x 1/4 ID x 1/16....Bill
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 604
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
Awshucks, what size shaft and type of shaft are you using. I have heard of problems with the graphite arrows, but have not heard of many problems with the allum arrows. What you can do if your using 2216 serries is use the size for the 2117 arrow (tighter fit). Another option might be a light rubber band wrapped arround the shaft (you could adjust the tightness for the added friction you want),
My dad with the Expmag has not had problems with his Scropios, other then have them stop on the fletching while in the game. But as he says, the cost of fletching is minute to harvest a birs.
Hope this helps.
My dad with the Expmag has not had problems with his Scropios, other then have them stop on the fletching while in the game. But as he says, the cost of fletching is minute to harvest a birs.
Hope this helps.
#8
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: arkansas
Posts: 3,147
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
Awshucks, what size shaft and type of shaft are you using. I have heard of problems with the graphite arrows, but have not heard of many problems with the allum arrows. What you can do if your using 2216 serries is use the size for the 2117 arrow (tighter fit). Another option might be a light rubber band wrapped arround the shaft (you could adjust the tightness for the added friction you want),
My dad with the Expmag has not had problems with his Scropios, other then have them stop on the fletching while in the game. But as he says, the cost of fletching is minute to harvest a birs.
Hope this helps.
Awshucks, what size shaft and type of shaft are you using. I have heard of problems with the graphite arrows, but have not heard of many problems with the allum arrows. What you can do if your using 2216 serries is use the size for the 2117 arrow (tighter fit). Another option might be a light rubber band wrapped arround the shaft (you could adjust the tightness for the added friction you want),
My dad with the Expmag has not had problems with his Scropios, other then have them stop on the fletching while in the game. But as he says, the cost of fletching is minute to harvest a birs.
Hope this helps.
#9
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 604
RE: Zwickey Grappler Tip
No problem.
I think that the allum arrows are gripped better by the springs (on the shaft) then the graphite. I have actually bought the size too large( could not get correct size) and with needle nose pliers did some bending and had them work great. I actually believe that they were tighter then the correct size,
Actually when I first researched arrow arrestors, rubber bands, washersm o-rings where what alot of people used,
Good luck and talk to ya later.
I think that the allum arrows are gripped better by the springs (on the shaft) then the graphite. I have actually bought the size too large( could not get correct size) and with needle nose pliers did some bending and had them work great. I actually believe that they were tighter then the correct size,
Actually when I first researched arrow arrestors, rubber bands, washersm o-rings where what alot of people used,
Good luck and talk to ya later.