Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
11-20-2004, 12:55 PM
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
I heard through the grapevine that hunting was banned in the U.K. yesterday. Is there any truth to that? Has anybody else heard anything about that??? [
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11-20-2004, 02:35 PM
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
With hunters and bowhunters all joined together we can not be beaten. We all know sticking together and picking our battles intelligently will make this lastest attack a easy win. Bowhunters must strive to keep good morals and not give those who oppose us any further reason to dislike bowhunting. By showing good sense in public no other people will learn to hate us and the ones who do will give up without any further support.
11-20-2004, 03:45 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
Humane Society to merge with Fund for Animals
By LANCE GAY
Scripps Howard News Service
November 19, 2004
WASHINGTON - The Humane Society of the United States is celebrating its 50th anniversary next week by merging with the late Cleveland Amory's Fund for Animals to become the largest and richest animal rights organization in the country.
"This is a historic move that is going to unite the movement," said Wayne Pacelle, the 39-year-old president of the Humane Society, who has spearheaded efforts to unite the competing agendas of organizations fighting for animal rights.
"I'm looking for us to become a hard-hitting campaign organization," Pacelle said.
He said he plans to use the organization's combined budget of $96 million next year to hire five lawyers for a litigation unit. The organization will focus on inhumane treatment of animals in factory farms, animal cruelty and efforts to enforce crackdowns on illegal cockfighting. It also will try to revitalize the campaign against fur clothing, ban inhumane sports hunting with bows and arrows and launch campaigns against keeping exotics as pets.
Humorist and commentator Cleveland Amory, who died in 1998, created the Fund for Animals in 1967 after breaking with the Humane Society, which he thought insufficiently radical and insensitive to the issues of wild animals. Pacelle previously worked for the Fund.
Pacelle said he would like to further unify the animal rights movement in the United States through other mergers, or by creating an umbrella organization that could carry more political clout in Washington.
Rob Sexton, vice president for governmental affairs at the U.S. Sportsman Alliance, an organization created to combat the anti-hunting movement, said the merger indicates the Humane Society will become a more outspoken opponent of hunting.
"The Fund for Animals has always been 100 percent anti-hunting, but the HSUS has been more subtle about it," he said. "This merger signals that HSUS is taking off the mask and devoting a greater amount of its capabilities at hunters. If we do a good job, we are going to unify sportsmen over this."
Some animal welfare groups predicted the Humane Society is staking out a more radical stand on animal welfare issues with the merger, and they doubted Pacelle can achieve his goal of unifying animal protection groups.
"There are some real differences between animal protection groups," said Patti Strand, president of the National Animal Interest Alliance in Portland, Ore., which promotes animal welfare.
Strand said she is opposed to the confrontational approach to animal welfare issues taken by the Humane Society and the Fund for Animals, which she maintains fuels conflicts for fund-raising purposes.
"We oppose them because of their tactics, and their dishonesty in promoting their agenda," Strand said. "Many of the animal protection groups don't like being seen as extremists."
The Humane Society grew out of a split in the animal rights movement in 1954, when Fred Myers, a former reporter for the Kansas City Journal and New York Mirror, led a breakaway faction from the American Humane Association, then a coalition of state and local societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals.
Humane Society historian Bernard Unti said Myers wanted an organization that would be more aggressive in pursuing federal legislation to protect animals, and headquartered the Humane Society of the United States in Washington. Unti said Myers was alarmed that the American Humane Association was not doing enough about the welfare of animals obtained from local pounds that were being used in biomedical research, then unregulated by the government.
Within four years after HSUS was formed on Nov. 22, 1954, the organization claimed its first victory with the help of women's clubs, pushing through Congress the Humane Slaughter Act, which requires humane treatment of animals in slaughterhouses. Myers in 1958 launched an undercover investigation of biomedical laboratories that exposed abuses prompting Congress to pass the Animal Welfare Act in 1966, establishing standards for housing, feeding and proper care of animals used for research.
Unti said the Animal Welfare Act was the most significant of the two new laws because it was extended to include proper treatment of animals in zoos and at roadside animal exhibits.
"We have to recognize it was not an easy road in this society to get these laws passed. There was very significant opposition," he said.
Pacelle said one of his major goals is to close the loopholes in the federal laws that exempted poultry from the Humane Slaughter Act. The Humane Society is campaigning to stop farmers from debeaking chickens so they don't peck at each other in close quarters, and to end battery henhouses.
"I think we're going to see poultry under the Humane Slaughter Act," he said. "It's not healthy for animals to be raised in confined environments."
Pacelle said his organization also is developing programs that will encourage suburban homeowners to live with the wildlife in rural neighborhoods and cut back on hunting. He said the organization does not support a blanket ban on hunting, but is opposed to using bows and arrows, which are inaccurate and can wound animals.
The Humane Society has launched a vigorous campaign to end so-called "canned hunts" where animals are put in enclosed areas for hunters to find them.
http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story...1-19-04&cat=AN
Notice how Pacelle says --- " the organization does not support a blanket ban on hunting ... "
This is an attempt by them to isolate bowhunters from other hunters.
Every person who hunts needs to know that these groups oppose ALL hunting.
By LANCE GAY
Scripps Howard News Service
November 19, 2004
WASHINGTON - The Humane Society of the United States is celebrating its 50th anniversary next week by merging with the late Cleveland Amory's Fund for Animals to become the largest and richest animal rights organization in the country.
"This is a historic move that is going to unite the movement," said Wayne Pacelle, the 39-year-old president of the Humane Society, who has spearheaded efforts to unite the competing agendas of organizations fighting for animal rights.
"I'm looking for us to become a hard-hitting campaign organization," Pacelle said.
He said he plans to use the organization's combined budget of $96 million next year to hire five lawyers for a litigation unit. The organization will focus on inhumane treatment of animals in factory farms, animal cruelty and efforts to enforce crackdowns on illegal cockfighting. It also will try to revitalize the campaign against fur clothing, ban inhumane sports hunting with bows and arrows and launch campaigns against keeping exotics as pets.
Humorist and commentator Cleveland Amory, who died in 1998, created the Fund for Animals in 1967 after breaking with the Humane Society, which he thought insufficiently radical and insensitive to the issues of wild animals. Pacelle previously worked for the Fund.
Pacelle said he would like to further unify the animal rights movement in the United States through other mergers, or by creating an umbrella organization that could carry more political clout in Washington.
Rob Sexton, vice president for governmental affairs at the U.S. Sportsman Alliance, an organization created to combat the anti-hunting movement, said the merger indicates the Humane Society will become a more outspoken opponent of hunting.
"The Fund for Animals has always been 100 percent anti-hunting, but the HSUS has been more subtle about it," he said. "This merger signals that HSUS is taking off the mask and devoting a greater amount of its capabilities at hunters. If we do a good job, we are going to unify sportsmen over this."
Some animal welfare groups predicted the Humane Society is staking out a more radical stand on animal welfare issues with the merger, and they doubted Pacelle can achieve his goal of unifying animal protection groups.
"There are some real differences between animal protection groups," said Patti Strand, president of the National Animal Interest Alliance in Portland, Ore., which promotes animal welfare.
Strand said she is opposed to the confrontational approach to animal welfare issues taken by the Humane Society and the Fund for Animals, which she maintains fuels conflicts for fund-raising purposes.
"We oppose them because of their tactics, and their dishonesty in promoting their agenda," Strand said. "Many of the animal protection groups don't like being seen as extremists."
The Humane Society grew out of a split in the animal rights movement in 1954, when Fred Myers, a former reporter for the Kansas City Journal and New York Mirror, led a breakaway faction from the American Humane Association, then a coalition of state and local societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals.
Humane Society historian Bernard Unti said Myers wanted an organization that would be more aggressive in pursuing federal legislation to protect animals, and headquartered the Humane Society of the United States in Washington. Unti said Myers was alarmed that the American Humane Association was not doing enough about the welfare of animals obtained from local pounds that were being used in biomedical research, then unregulated by the government.
Within four years after HSUS was formed on Nov. 22, 1954, the organization claimed its first victory with the help of women's clubs, pushing through Congress the Humane Slaughter Act, which requires humane treatment of animals in slaughterhouses. Myers in 1958 launched an undercover investigation of biomedical laboratories that exposed abuses prompting Congress to pass the Animal Welfare Act in 1966, establishing standards for housing, feeding and proper care of animals used for research.
Unti said the Animal Welfare Act was the most significant of the two new laws because it was extended to include proper treatment of animals in zoos and at roadside animal exhibits.
"We have to recognize it was not an easy road in this society to get these laws passed. There was very significant opposition," he said.
Pacelle said one of his major goals is to close the loopholes in the federal laws that exempted poultry from the Humane Slaughter Act. The Humane Society is campaigning to stop farmers from debeaking chickens so they don't peck at each other in close quarters, and to end battery henhouses.
"I think we're going to see poultry under the Humane Slaughter Act," he said. "It's not healthy for animals to be raised in confined environments."
Pacelle said his organization also is developing programs that will encourage suburban homeowners to live with the wildlife in rural neighborhoods and cut back on hunting. He said the organization does not support a blanket ban on hunting, but is opposed to using bows and arrows, which are inaccurate and can wound animals.
The Humane Society has launched a vigorous campaign to end so-called "canned hunts" where animals are put in enclosed areas for hunters to find them.
http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story...1-19-04&cat=AN
Notice how Pacelle says --- " the organization does not support a blanket ban on hunting ... "
This is an attempt by them to isolate bowhunters from other hunters.
Every person who hunts needs to know that these groups oppose ALL hunting.
11-20-2004, 05:53 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
It will never happen. Bow Hunting is the only alternative feasible to keeping the deer population down
scretch........... yawwwwwn.......... I'm really worried about this. What on Earth are we going to do? (in my most sarcastic voice)
Pass it off if you want to, the only problem is, we will all be sorry down the road.
HSUS, Animal Fund and Peta are all the same bunch of idiots. Heres some info on PETA:
Peta spends more on promoting themselves than on animals.
In a 1992 report by the NCIB, National Charities Investigation Bureau, PETA spent 42% of its organizational expenses on fundraising. Only 20% on actual research and investigation in to animal cruelty.
More current reports examining PETA's tax filings have shown as little as 1% of PETA's total revenue actually goes directly to helping animals; usually small donations to animal clinics or similar organizations. PETA's 2001 tax filings show some interesting donations:
Compassion Unlimited Plus Action - Bangalore - Donation - $11.11
PETA Research & Education Foundations - Donations $29.16
In Defense of Animals - Donation $71.11
Virginia Police Defense Fund, Norfolk Police Union - Donation - $150
Society for Abolition of Animal Exploitation - Donation - $150
Kalamazoo Animal Liberation League - Donation - $150
Vieques Humane Society - Donation - $25
SNAP - Donation - $50,000
PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million.
PETA spent the following on
PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84
Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24
Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02
SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00
Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property)
Land - Expense - 94,170.00
It makes one ask the questions, what is PETA really about? Why do they choose to spend more money on promoting themselves than actually helping animals?
Supporting Terrorism.
PETA has contributed thousands of dollars to known activist extremists. Most of these extremist were involved in either ALF or ELF, two organizations under FBI watch. The FBI is monitoring these organizations for acts of terrorism in the United States. These acts include arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. ALF, in one statement, has admitted to over 100 acts of terrorism, all in the name of animal rights and the economy.
PETA has given over $45,000 to the defense of Rodney Coronado, an ALF member convicted of a firebombing at Michigan State University. During this criminal act of arson, Rodney Coronado stole documents and had them sent to a PETA member, the sending of these packages was prearranged by the president of PETA, herself. One of the packages was intercepted by the FBI.
Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, during his last meal, decided to not eat meat. PETA’s response to this was given by Bruce Friedrich, when he told reporters “Mr. McVeigh’s decision to go vegetarian groups him with some of the world’s greatest visionaries."
PETA published a pamphlet entitled "Activism and the law", that offers advice on burning laboratory buildings. This same pamphlet states "there is a higher law than that written by those who subjugate the helpless", it states that the use of illegal actions may be unpopular, but "no struggle against exploitation has been won without them."
PETA contributed $27,000 to the legal defense of Roger Troen for burglary and arson at the University of Oregon in 1986. In 1989, PETA informed its members of the payment.
PETA's 1988 Form 990. PETA contributed $7,500 to the legal defense of Fran Stephanie Trutt, convicted of possessing pipe bombs and prosecuted for the attempted murder of the president of a medical laboratory.
PETA's 2001 Form 990. PETA payed lawyer fees for animal rights criminals involving the North American Earth Liberation Front, an FBI-declared domestic terrorist organization.
-"I will be the last person to condemn ALF (Animal Liberation Front)."
- Ingrid Newkirk, in the New York Daily News, [December 7, 1997]
-"McVeigh's decision to go vegetarian groups him with some of the world's greatest visionaries."
- Bruce Friedrich praising Oklahoma City bomber and mass-murderer Timothy McVeigh, for choosing a vegetarian last meal
-"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
- Bruce Friedrich, vegan campaign coordinator of PETA, “Animal Rights 2001” conference
Guilty of being hypocrites.
PETA claims animal research is useless to the medical field, but their Vice President, Mary Beth Sweetland, has no problem injecting insulin to help control her diabetes. She claims that she is not a hypocrite, but she needs her life to continue fighting for animals.
In 1999, PETA euthanized 1,325 of the 2,103 animals it took. PETA claimed that euthanizing the cats was much kinder than leaving them in the streets. PETA made the statement that a quick painless death is much better than a slow painful one. However, when hunters or farmers talk of quick painless ways of killing animals, PETA calls them barbarians and claim no animal death is justified.
Brainwashing children.
They have committed to the use of propaganda in elementary schools, claiming they can influence the foundation of children's beliefs to make it easier to persuade them as teenagers and adults. They use scare tactics, and unethical methods of convincing children milk and meat is bad.
-"Our campaigns are always geared towards children and they always will be"
-Dan Matthews, Vice President of PETA on the Fox News Network [December 19, 2003]
11-20-2004, 07:16 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
Do peta people think this world will live on freak'in lettuce and soybean burgers? I orderd a vegy burger one time, made out of soybean or something tasted like crap!!!
11-20-2004, 09:15 PM
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
I think the hunters over in England said the same thing a few months ago. Look at what happend, those who do nothing are the reson they lost thir rights to hunt.
I will fight with my gloves off whenever it is necessary to maintain my right to (bow)hunt. I do not see this group as a threat. And as far as I'm concerned, the more attention WE pay to them, OTHERS will pay and then some.
I used to be a school teacher and this group resembles "that kid" who called out and tried his best to disrupt the class... Ignore him, and 90% of the time he'll go away. When it's time to penalize him, call his parents, alert the administration, etc., Whatever needs to be done, do it, but the more attention you give him when attention isn't deserved, you're making matters worse.
Let's treat the HSUS like the non-issue that they are... For the near and distant future, they will not intimidate our lawmakers and they will not influence our right to hunt. They're ignorant and they're powerless in the U.S.
I will monitor their intentions and keep track of their accomplishments. Whenever they're a threat, I'll treat them like one. Until then, they're nothing.
11-21-2004, 01:44 PM
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
just wanted to wiegh in on this.
i would personally like to see all states require proficiency testing with a bow like alaska does. it would cut down on non-recovered animals. i don't mean to slight any shop owners or dealers as this may hurt business a bit. it also may not as range time and instruction fees may go way up. i think it is something we as bowhunters should push for. it will go a long way with image imho and besides that it's just a good thing.
i would personally like to see all states require proficiency testing with a bow like alaska does. it would cut down on non-recovered animals. i don't mean to slight any shop owners or dealers as this may hurt business a bit. it also may not as range time and instruction fees may go way up. i think it is something we as bowhunters should push for. it will go a long way with image imho and besides that it's just a good thing.
11-22-2004, 08:14 AM
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RE: Animal Rights Groups to Announce Plan to Merge, Ban Bowhunting
Thanks for the heads up. The HSUS are the same people who attempted to have bear huntingover bait in Maine abolished this past election day. This group is very determine and we as hunters and sportsman alike need to ban together to defeat these (for lack of a better word) IDOTS!.
Support the NRA as well as local bowhunting organizations. We can't just take what we have for granted. We must mobilize and defeat this opposition!
Support the NRA as well as local bowhunting organizations. We can't just take what we have for granted. We must mobilize and defeat this opposition!