New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
#21
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
I ran into a similar situation 2 weeks ago. However I was the person that had put the stand on someone elses property. As Rob mentioned people don't always know exactly what property they own. In my situation I had placed my stand on a section of land that I didn't have permission for. However the guy that given me permission insisted he owned the property. I came to my stand one afternoon and found a note taped to my stand that informed me I was on posted property and that I needed to take down my stand. When I got home I called the number on the note to apologize to the landowner and after talking things over I ended up receiving permission to hunt his land. He gave me a number and asked that I put a piece flourescent orange tape on a part of my stand and write that number on the tape. That way he knows who the stand belongs to if he should come across it in the woods.
#22
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wisconsin, Shawano County
Posts: 48
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
If I were in your situation I'd take the civil path. First leave a note on the stand and also talk to whoever you believe may have put up the stand. Even if they did it knowing it wasn't their land make yourself be understanding, this hot spot is only 60 yards from the property line, if bowhunting the area and a hit deer would cross the fence you're going to have to get permission to persue your animal. By taking the stand, destroying the stand, or begin a prick, good luck getting permission granted to you in the future.
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Delhi, NY (by way of Chenango Forks)
Posts: 1,706
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
I am in the same stuation, but on the opposite side. Let me explain.
We have a camp (25 yrs.) on 20 ac. and when I started bowhunting we put up some "portable" stands (wooden ladder stands). There are ~30 ac. of land between us and the next camp. That land (~5 parcels) has been basically "abandoned" for most of those 25 years and we have hunted it over all of those years. We have 2 stands on this land. Over this summer it appeared that someone ad bought a the chunk of land with the stands on it or the owners were going to do something with it (they actually cleared of a corner of our property mistakenly - thats a whole nother story!). We have been waiting to see the owners some weekend and talk to them about the stands & if it was ok to leave them and still hunt and the whole clearing thing. Anyway, we have never seen them and have continued as normal. They had thier property surveyed (guess they should've done that before they cleared our land!!). This weekend there are posted signs on the property. I stayed off. Now we need to conact the owner and find out if we can hunt and/or let him know that we are willing to take down the stands if need be (we would be more than happy to leave them for the owners if we can have access to them as well
We are pretty level headed, normal folks. Were we in the wrong?? How would you handle this situation (from both perspectives) I like that most reponses here have said to contact the "offender" and try to reach an understanding. That is really what we want to do.
We have a camp (25 yrs.) on 20 ac. and when I started bowhunting we put up some "portable" stands (wooden ladder stands). There are ~30 ac. of land between us and the next camp. That land (~5 parcels) has been basically "abandoned" for most of those 25 years and we have hunted it over all of those years. We have 2 stands on this land. Over this summer it appeared that someone ad bought a the chunk of land with the stands on it or the owners were going to do something with it (they actually cleared of a corner of our property mistakenly - thats a whole nother story!). We have been waiting to see the owners some weekend and talk to them about the stands & if it was ok to leave them and still hunt and the whole clearing thing. Anyway, we have never seen them and have continued as normal. They had thier property surveyed (guess they should've done that before they cleared our land!!). This weekend there are posted signs on the property. I stayed off. Now we need to conact the owner and find out if we can hunt and/or let him know that we are willing to take down the stands if need be (we would be more than happy to leave them for the owners if we can have access to them as well
We are pretty level headed, normal folks. Were we in the wrong?? How would you handle this situation (from both perspectives) I like that most reponses here have said to contact the "offender" and try to reach an understanding. That is really what we want to do.
#25
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Posts: 172
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
I agree with the civilized approach to the issue but I would also take a sluth approach. I'd hang a trail camera where it is not accessable and get a pic of whoever occupies the stand. Then you know who you need to be talking to and or the police/G.W. (game warden not George W.
#26
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
gosh i can't stand you people who say to be nice and give it back. maybe bring some cookies with it. im sure he'll appreciate it. The stand is on your land, and its not yours or anyone who hunts with you. IT NOW BELONGS TO YOU! It's that simple! Keep it for yourself or make it so it can never be used again. Calling the cops? what good are they in situations like this? We got pukes like this all the time at our place in iowa. we've called the DNR, but they can't do much about it. This year so far, i've taken down or destroyed 6 stands. i found one portable that they hung and had a ladder on their side of the fence. now, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on there. teach them a lesson:tresspass and hang stands, and you'll be heading for the store for some new ones. With people like this, you have to be forceful. leaving a note isn't going to help very much at all. I dont see how somebody can "mistakenly" hop over a line fence and hang a stand and not know they're tresspassing.
For those of you who have done this, i have no pity. Would you like it if i went into your house and set a up a bed to sleep in? Study your plat book before you go hang stands.
I'm sorry if i come off sounding like a jerk, but when you've had as many people tresspassing and poaching as we have, it gets to the point where you have to do unkind things to stop these slobs.
slayer
For those of you who have done this, i have no pity. Would you like it if i went into your house and set a up a bed to sleep in? Study your plat book before you go hang stands.
I'm sorry if i come off sounding like a jerk, but when you've had as many people tresspassing and poaching as we have, it gets to the point where you have to do unkind things to stop these slobs.
slayer
#27
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
Maybe that works in your area Deerslayer, but the civil approach is best. If it is a neighbors stand, unless he has already commited to being a d!ck, you need to be civil. There will come a time when a deer is shot on your land and runs on to his land. If you have been a jerk in the past, forget about getting permission to recover your deer. I think it is important to get along with your neighbors, cause you will at some point need something from them. Like I said, if they are already being pr!cks, then return the favor, otherwise be civil.
#29
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
Who says im ever going to ask for permission to get a buck off their land? Iowa law permits me to do so as long as i have no weapon with me. I guess call me a dick if thats what you're thinking, but how can you be civil with somebody who knowingly goes into your land and shoots your deer? do you think some slob trying to shoot or poach a trophy whitetail is really going to care about some little note you stapled to the tree? we've already tried the civil approach. the DNR didnt do jack squat. talking to them didnt help. i get so frustrated with these kind of people who think its ok to just walk across teh fence and hunt as they please. i guess im just venting this stuff..its really not fun when you intensely manage your land and put the time in scouting adn making food plots to see some of these bucks poached or shot by tresspassers.
slayer
slayer
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pulaskiville
Posts: 3,529
RE: New Stand On Our Land & Its Not Ours!!!
Deerslayer...I own a camp and 400+ acres in WV. If I acted like you suggest, my camp would be burnt to the ground the minute I pulled off the property.
Act reasonably and all will work out. We must learn to get along with our neighbors even if they are morons....It's the way of the world.[:@]
Act reasonably and all will work out. We must learn to get along with our neighbors even if they are morons....It's the way of the world.[:@]