Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
#11
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Flowery Branch Ga. 30542
Posts: 823
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
Doesn't matter, understand what the wind is doing and you can wear anything you want washed in anything. I was five feet away from a deer the other month before season with my dress clothes and deorderant and after shave and everything else associated with work. . Understand the wind and it will become pretty obvious to ya that all this camo and scent control is all hyped way to much. We have always been and will always be at the mercey of the wind, understand what it is doing and you will understand how to get close to a deer..
scent control and camo, hyped waaaay tooo much!!
scent control and camo, hyped waaaay tooo much!!
#12
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
I think a person will do better by staying as clean as possable but nothing will completely do away with or hide your scent totally. The more human scent you pack in the more you will spead around you. Playing the wind is the only sure way to fool their nose but the wind can change alot also. Also you can get away with spreading more scent around young deer but the old ones will not stand for it. Many times I've had young deer around me down wind and not know I was around. As soon as an old doe gets the slightest wind of me it's all over.
#13
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
Anyway............I don't practice much scent control anymore ! I don't think it is unimportant ..........but I just don't buy into all of it anymore !
Me either.
#14
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
I own TWO(2) Scent Lok suits. I wore the face mask a couple times last year when it was cold and I wanted to get away from the mesh ones.[&:] I know I have two because I bought them. They're in a scent lok bag somewhere in the basement.
#15
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
Deer dont associate tide with anything in the woods that would be dangerous, so you were actually practicing scent control.
I will prolly get reamed for this but I have drank beer, smoked cigs and peed out a blind and still killed a deer, hog, turkey etc. Rifle hunting mind you.
I will prolly get reamed for this but I have drank beer, smoked cigs and peed out a blind and still killed a deer, hog, turkey etc. Rifle hunting mind you.
#16
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Omaha Nebraska USA
Posts: 530
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
ORIGINAL: Bees
Doesn't matter, understand what the wind is doing and you can wear anything you want washed in anything. I was five feet away from a deer the other month before season with my dress clothes and deorderant and after shave and everything else associated with work. . Understand the wind and it will become pretty obvious to ya that all this camo and scent control is all hyped way to much. We have always been and will always be at the mercey of the wind, understand what it is doing and you will understand how to get close to a deer..
scent control and camo, hyped waaaay tooo much!!
Doesn't matter, understand what the wind is doing and you can wear anything you want washed in anything. I was five feet away from a deer the other month before season with my dress clothes and deorderant and after shave and everything else associated with work. . Understand the wind and it will become pretty obvious to ya that all this camo and scent control is all hyped way to much. We have always been and will always be at the mercey of the wind, understand what it is doing and you will understand how to get close to a deer..
scent control and camo, hyped waaaay tooo much!!
If you put any stock into Tom Brown and his tracking and woodland skills [link]http://www.trackerschool.com/[/link], he uses all of the above and more to control his scent, and then he plays the wind. It's all pieces to the total puzzle. He was trained by a native american and this was how he was taught. These pictures of indians hunting in clean, bare legs and buckskins is a myth generated by past and present media.
The other hole in this 'play the wind only' train of thought is that you are assuming that deer will only come in up wind of you. I've been out four times now this season (and countless times last season) and each time have had deer come in from behind me, or pass by me and then get down wind of me, and many times while there were deer still in front of me. What do you do then when the big buck is standing up wind of you and you're ready to draw but a doe gets behind you and smells your aftershave or tide detergent and snorts and sends every furry creature running?
As for not being able to eliminate all of your scent, I agree, but I also believe it may not be as much of an all or nothing prospect as some would believe. The reason is, I believe, is that a lot of us hunt in areas where there is some amount of human scent spread throughout the year. This is true on farms; on public hunting land where hikers share the woods, or small game hunters, or whatever; suburban hunters; etc. The deer are used to smelling 'traces' of human scent that may be anywhere from fresh to a few days old. They have learned, I would assume, to distinguish between a recent concentrated human scent of a non protected person to that of a trace odor that is a few days old and no longer a threat. I think that if we can contain most of our scent so that all that is getting 'out there' are small percentages of our odor, be it from our breath, or our wallet, or our watch band or whatever, they may believe it is an older odor and not one to cause alarm. I have no proof on this, it's just a layman's theory.
Just my two cents on 'just' playing the wind. It's important, and undoubtedly the most important part, but it's not the only part to increasing your odds in consistently seeing and harvesting deer.
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,932
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
I belive scent control is important to a point. Yes you need to wash your clothes in the Earth Plus Detergent. Then spray your self down with some type of cover scent before you head to the woods. People that buy into that scent-lok suit you guys are wasteing your money. I have had deer down wind of me and they didnt pick up my scent. I thought of this say you put a dead animal that has been laying next to the road on on hot summer day. You take that dead animal rap him up in the scent-lok suit. Are you going to still smell him? Please save your money or spend it on something else.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Omaha Nebraska USA
Posts: 530
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
ORIGINAL: deerhunter1224
I belive scent control is important to a point. Yes you need to wash your clothes in the Earth Plus Detergent. Then spray your self down with some type of cover scent before you head to the woods. People that buy into that scent-lok suit you guys are wasteing your money. I have had deer down wind of me and they didnt pick up my scent. I thought of this say you put a dead animal that has been laying next to the road on on hot summer day. You take that dead animal rap him up in the scent-lok suit. Are you going to still smell him? Please save your money or spend it on something else.
I belive scent control is important to a point. Yes you need to wash your clothes in the Earth Plus Detergent. Then spray your self down with some type of cover scent before you head to the woods. People that buy into that scent-lok suit you guys are wasteing your money. I have had deer down wind of me and they didnt pick up my scent. I thought of this say you put a dead animal that has been laying next to the road on on hot summer day. You take that dead animal rap him up in the scent-lok suit. Are you going to still smell him? Please save your money or spend it on something else.
For the record, I don't use scent lok either, just having fun.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shakopee MN USA
Posts: 1,001
RE: Descent buck downwind...........no scent control !!
You passed up the biggest buck at around a 100" 8pt and you had a couple doe around you? That's not like your hunting old, smart deer now are you? Most likely all of them were at or under 2 1/2 and not very bright, still in their summer patterns and haven't been hunted or have been pressured at all. I guess you don't have to worry about shooting a big dog now do ya. But then again luck probably is 70-80% of hunting, so you still got a chance. Screw scent, doesn't help one bit. lol!!!!!