Is it baiting or simply attracting?
10-01-2004, 05:55 AM
#11
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 64
RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
What is funny about this in Pennsylvania, is that you can use all the deer 'lure' or 'attractants' that you want, even estrous during the peak of the breeding season, but if you use any type of 'lure' or 'attractants' for bear, that is considered baiting.
12-15-2004, 09:08 AM
#12
Join Date: Dec 2004
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RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
WERE IM FROM WE HAVE BAITED FISHING HOLES ,PUT CORN OUT AT OUR STANDS,PLANT VEG.S FOR HUNTING DEER. SO I DONT SEE ANY THING WRONG WITH IT. HELL ALL MY LIFE WE HAVE RAN DEER DOGS.I GEUSS WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO FILL YOUR FREEZER. SIMPLY ATTRACTING
12-15-2004, 09:35 AM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
In michigan we can bait, I really don't see the difference between what you are talking about and dumping corn on the ground on a regular basis. Sometimes I think everything but the deer are eating at my bait pile
. We bait year round though every couple of days. And it's not a huge amount either, less than what we can use by law.
Pretty much anything other than hiding behind a tree and waiting for a deer to walk by would be considered baiting.
Calls, decoys, scents (basically all bait is), and food would all be considered baiting in my book. You are using a device or chemical attractent to get a deer to go where you want it and put it in a position that makes it easier for you to shoot it.
And if we are not tricking them by some means, we are still hiding in a tree waiting to ambush them. Hardly seems fair does it. However I don't have any moral problems doing it to be honest.
It really boils down to how you personally feel and want to hunt. If your not comfortable using bait or hunting over food then don't do it. If you want more of a challenge, stalk them thru a corn field or something. It really depends on your degree of skill and how much enjoyment you get out of it. If baiting feels like cheating to you, then by all means don't do it. Just try not to put down others that use every legal means there is to harvest a deer. Some really need the help. And I am not saying you are, so don't take that comment personally.
That's my opinion any way.
Good luck,
Paul
. We bait year round though every couple of days. And it's not a huge amount either, less than what we can use by law.Pretty much anything other than hiding behind a tree and waiting for a deer to walk by would be considered baiting.
Calls, decoys, scents (basically all bait is), and food would all be considered baiting in my book. You are using a device or chemical attractent to get a deer to go where you want it and put it in a position that makes it easier for you to shoot it.
And if we are not tricking them by some means, we are still hiding in a tree waiting to ambush them. Hardly seems fair does it. However I don't have any moral problems doing it to be honest.
It really boils down to how you personally feel and want to hunt. If your not comfortable using bait or hunting over food then don't do it. If you want more of a challenge, stalk them thru a corn field or something. It really depends on your degree of skill and how much enjoyment you get out of it. If baiting feels like cheating to you, then by all means don't do it. Just try not to put down others that use every legal means there is to harvest a deer. Some really need the help
. And I am not saying you are, so don't take that comment personally.That's my opinion any way.
Good luck,
Paul
12-15-2004, 11:29 AM
#16
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: South Bend IN
Posts: 296
RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
It really boils down to how you personally feel and want to hunt. If your not comfortable using bait or hunting over food then don't do it. If you want more of a challenge, stalk them thru a corn field or something. It really depends on your degree of skill and how much enjoyment you get out of it. If baiting feels like cheating to you, then by all means don't do it.
01-01-2005, 01:23 PM
#18
Join Date: Jan 2004
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RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
Here in West Virginia we are legal to bait on private ground. The way I see it is it is a way of putting an arrow right in the boiler room. To me that is good hunting. I would rather see that then a deer running around with half an arrow sticking out of its hind quarters because someone has misjudged his yardage or had to shoot through some limbs or brush. I have seen this to many times. I am not a trophy hunter and I do take advantage of what the laws say I can do. If I were in an area that said I could'nt bait Im sure I would use more scents or even try to use a decoy. These are only my opinions and I don't intend to make anyone mad. I do put alot of legaly checked meat in my freezer ( mostly does) and dont feel bad about doing so.Isnt that what its really all about. Shoot strait and good hunting. Huntwv
01-01-2005, 02:53 PM
#19
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Louisville Kentucky USA
Posts: 1,207
RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
ORIGINAL: dkeener
Well said. Anyone in here ever tried spear hunting? (I am being serious).
It really boils down to how you personally feel and want to hunt. If your not comfortable using bait or hunting over food then don't do it. If you want more of a challenge, stalk them thru a corn field or something. It really depends on your degree of skill and how much enjoyment you get out of it. If baiting feels like cheating to you, then by all means don't do it.
01-01-2005, 03:22 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: the woods of NJ.
Posts: 5,643
RE: Is it baiting or simply attracting?
disagree. It really boils down to whether the CO thinks it's OK or not. So I guess it could be argued that planting food plots to hunt over is baiting.