BobCo19-65

I was just wondering if anyone caught the North American Fish & Game show yesterday on the Outdoor Channel? I don' t usually watch the Outdoor Channel all that much but did catch the show. The show was filmed in Kansas and they were bowhunting whitetail. Anyhow, the guy took a shot that in my opinion was a little risky. The hunter was on the ground and the deer was almost totally facing him, but was hard quartering to. The guy shot an hit what appeared to me either a single lung, single lung - liver, or liver. I could not tell because I did not see the shot in slow mo, and they did not show the entrance/exit holes after they recovered the deer. Which brings me to another point. Don' t you wish that they would show the tracking job in a little more detail and where the deer is actualy hit. It would be so much more educating. And beginners would not have a false sense of the hunt. But anyway, by what they did show of the tracking, I would have to assume that the deer was not hit in both lungs, but was hit in one, and probably a liver also. But in my opinion, the deer would have walked if I was faced with the same shot. BTW, they mentioned that the deer was 35 yards. And by the posture of the deer, it was alarmed and looking right at the hunter.

If you saw the show what are your opinions?

xibowhunter

i didn' t see the show ,but from what i understand is most shows don' t show the blood and guts (so to speak ) so they don' t have to hear the antis bitch!

rather_be_huntin

I saw the show and I thought the same about the shot. It was a little risky but like you said they don' t show the tracking job, entrance and exit wounds or anything like that so its hard to make a judgment on it. When I first got the outdoors channel more than a year I loved all the hunting shows. But now some things are starting to bother me. I started buying hunting videos and they are a lot the same. They show the the moment of thruth and thats the most important part but they don' t show much before and after.

I want to know how far did they walk in? Private or public land? How many hours\days did they go without seeing game? What made them decide on the spot they' re hunting? How far from the nearest road are they? How did they get there? How did they pack the game out? Did they have to quarter it? On those risky shots what happened, exit and entrance wounds, etc.? Out west we some huge plots of land so these are important questions. I have never seen one hunt on a show or video answer all of these questions.

BobCo19-65

I know what you mean Rather, I think that a lot of the shows are failing to realize that many of us hunter (and I' d imagine that a huge percentage of viewers are hunters) are watching these show with the hopes of learning something. I know that I am anyway. I don' t watch them because I like to sit around and watch people kill things. I as a hunter I am trying to learn, but with such limited information that they offer, it makes it a bit impossible. Too bad.

I' d also like to know what made this guy take the shot that he did. Is this the type of shot he normally takes, cause if it is, I' d imagine that he is wounding some of the game he is shooting at. There was no way that he could have made a double lung on the deer at the angle the deer was at. So, I am wondering if he intentially shot for the one lung and liver. Who knows?????

jsasker

I saw the show and i think the shot was taken in hopes of harvesting a pretty nice buck.Would i take that shot?--actually i think i would take that shot if the deer was about 5 yards closer.jmho.
ALSO,who really knows where the camera was in relation to the hunters angle on the animal?

dick_cress

I saw the show . . . I remember thinking when he started his draw, " He' s not going to take that shot is he????" It was a risky shot at best. I might think twice about such a shot on a 6 X 6 bull but not a deer sized animal.

I do know that many times we see shots from a camera angle that is different from the shooter. But " quartering to" is not a highest of ethical shots to my way of thinking. There are those that feel differently, and I respectfully disagree.

BobCo19-65

I would disagree about where the camera was as compared to the hunter in this instance. I could see the arrow flight and the impact on the deer. But I do know what you are talking about in other instances.

Guess what? I put on Ultimate Hunting (I believe) last night and saw an even worse shot. At least in the above shot (kansas hunt) the hunter was at ground level with the deer so he had a decent chance of taking out the liver with the single lung, but in a shot that I saw yesterday, the deer came in straight into the guy in a stand (and I mean straight) and the deer was looking right up at the guy at about 5 yards. The guy shot, I couldn' t believe it, because here, the odds of a single lung hit go up significantly. Anyone ever track a single lung hit??? Anyone ever want to do it again??? I am just wondering what is being promoted here, and I am wondering since we actually see guys making shots like that on the TV show and recovering the deer, how many other deer are going away wounded (because we never see this), since these guys are taking such risky shots.

I' m just wondering why Dick Cress? What would change your mind on an Elk.

Solax

I saw a shot last night that looked like it was at a bad angle. Then when they showed it in slow motion the arrow was coming in from the side so that meant the cameraman was in a different tree. This needs to be taken into account sometimes, HOWEVER.....they should make it a point to mention this.

A buddy of mine is thinking about getting in to bow hunting and this is all he knows about it (what he sees on TV). They should realize things like this and try to educate, rather than just show the deer coming in and the shot and then " Hey, there he is" . They should show the scouting and bloodtrailing IMO. My buddy is like " Hey, you gonna put me in one of your stands this year" I told him no, if he' s willing to scout with me and help me put up the stand and clear the shooting lanes then yes, I' ll let him. I don' t want him to think hunting is just wandering out in the woods and shooting a deer.

dick_cress

Did anyone by chance catch Roger Ragland banging away at whitetails over 400 yards away and in a full out run????