Not passing threw....Any thoughts?
#11
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Northern NY
Posts: 311
try a smaller broadhead, maybe even a fixed blade... fixed blade would give you much better penetration. alot of guys on here really like the slick tricks, i like thunderheads also.
and you didnt really say anything about your shots other than the distance.. are you shooting? the shoulder? what angle?
and you didnt really say anything about your shots other than the distance.. are you shooting? the shoulder? what angle?
#12
try a smaller broadhead, maybe even a fixed blade... fixed blade would give you much better penetration. alot of guys on here really like the slick tricks, i like thunderheads also.
and you didnt really say anything about your shots other than the distance.. are you shooting? the shoulder? what angle?
and you didnt really say anything about your shots other than the distance.. are you shooting? the shoulder? what angle?
#13
And I've shot some 20-30yds and it seems to penetrate good but wont pass threw; I shoot a Bowtech General, Beman ICS Camhunt 500 (9.1 GPI), and I belive my draw length is 27 (my arms have grown another good 1/2in or so but I want to use my arrows i have now up because they will be too short if i extend my draw length, i still have almost a dozen and i still can shoot my bow comfortable), I shot 63lb draw and rage 3 blades.
#2. Rage broadheads are not known to be a good penetrating heads any way. They require a lot of energy to push those long blades through a deer. Shoot a moderate diameter fixed blade head like a Slick Trick standard, G5 montec, Magnus stinger, etc... and you will gt better penetration.
#3. Make sure that your bow is tuned as good as you can get it. If the arrow is not flying perfectly straight it is wasting energy correcting itself during flight and when it hits the animal it is wasting more energy as it is slapping side to side as it is penetrating the hole in the hide and bones on the entry side of the animal. This correlates to tip #1 above.
#14
Well, I reaad all the other posts and didn't see one thing about arrow spine. It would seem to me that, accoding to your arrow specs, you are shooting a 500 spine. At least that's what you wrote.
If this is the case then it's just possible that your arrows are wagging around in flight due to being underspined. If so this would impeded pentration because the arrows momentum is not all behind the broadhead. In other words, the arrow may be entering the deer partly sideways.
You're shooting enough draw weight and the arrow is certainly heavy enough. Kinetic energy should be sufficient so this is the only plausible explanation as far as I'm concerned.
As an example, I have used setups producing as little as 39 ft/lbs of energy (316 gr arrow going 237fps) and shot clear through deer quartering away at almost a 45 degree angle. It's not always about how much power the bow produces. Shot placement and near perfect arrow flight mean a lot more.
If this is the case then it's just possible that your arrows are wagging around in flight due to being underspined. If so this would impeded pentration because the arrows momentum is not all behind the broadhead. In other words, the arrow may be entering the deer partly sideways.
You're shooting enough draw weight and the arrow is certainly heavy enough. Kinetic energy should be sufficient so this is the only plausible explanation as far as I'm concerned.
As an example, I have used setups producing as little as 39 ft/lbs of energy (316 gr arrow going 237fps) and shot clear through deer quartering away at almost a 45 degree angle. It's not always about how much power the bow produces. Shot placement and near perfect arrow flight mean a lot more.
#15
Arrows are too weak as bulls said above plus you are shooting rage heads which compounds the problem. Go to a 400 spine arrow and fixed blade head, problem solved once you tune your bow with the new arrows/heads.
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,722
rage 3 blades
one of the worst penetration designs out there
you've got some weight behind your arrows - if you went to a 2 blade COI head, you'd blow through shoulder blades and STILL bury the arrows 6" into the ground on the other side
read Dr Ashby reports on www.tradgang.com
everyone should
one of the worst penetration designs out there
you've got some weight behind your arrows - if you went to a 2 blade COI head, you'd blow through shoulder blades and STILL bury the arrows 6" into the ground on the other side
read Dr Ashby reports on www.tradgang.com
everyone should