Bowtech Destroyer/Buys Beware
12-30-2009, 03:14 PM
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Bowtech Destroyer/Buys Beware
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1095166
The cam is WAY too close to the limb for my liking. On that thread on AT, I see the original poster of that thread, whom lives in New York, has just forked out over 9 bills for a bow, and he is concerned, as there is a bow in the shop with scrapes on the limb. I see another guy, Tozer from Oregon, whom owns one, and he has scrapes on his too. Then a guy, that is a recurve shooter from North Carolina, and he simply went into shoot a Destroyer at a dealer in NC and he takes pics of the same scrape marks. Coincidence?? I haven't seen where any of these guys say that dealers put the scrape in the limb, but the Bowtech Corporate Advisors are claiming these occurred from dumb bow shop techs
. Time will tell, I just wanted to give you all a heads up.
The cam is WAY too close to the limb for my liking. On that thread on AT, I see the original poster of that thread, whom lives in New York, has just forked out over 9 bills for a bow, and he is concerned, as there is a bow in the shop with scrapes on the limb. I see another guy, Tozer from Oregon, whom owns one, and he has scrapes on his too. Then a guy, that is a recurve shooter from North Carolina, and he simply went into shoot a Destroyer at a dealer in NC and he takes pics of the same scrape marks. Coincidence?? I haven't seen where any of these guys say that dealers put the scrape in the limb, but the Bowtech Corporate Advisors are claiming these occurred from dumb bow shop techs
. Time will tell, I just wanted to give you all a heads up.
12-30-2009, 03:17 PM
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if it walks like a duck!!
12-30-2009, 04:38 PM
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It's bad enough that you brought this issue back from two other forums, but to post it twice? Come on HCH.
12-30-2009, 05:04 PM
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12-30-2009, 05:21 PM
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First, the thread, info was already here. We (HNI) don't need a redundant thread on a NON issue.
Don, please. Did you even read the entire thread? Straight from an BowTech.
End of story!
Don, please. Did you even read the entire thread? Straight from an BowTech.
There is not a problem with cams or the limbs or a function of both and the mark you see is not caused by any defect, lean, or anything relating to the shooting or performance of the bow.
The mark in question is one that can be made when the cam is rotated during assembly or changing the draw length
The upper rounded lobe of the cam is slightly larger than the "Pointed" end that rotates through the fork and if the dealer,builder, or customer gets a touch heavy handed in either assembly or changing draw length and tries to rotate the cam too far while doing so they can cause that exact swipe mark in the In Velvet clear coat.
It can give the appearance that the cam is hitting or rubbing the fork in that area when drawing or shooting.......it is not.
If you have one in a press and remove the string and cables from their tracks and try to rotate the cam 360 degrees you will see exactly what I'm talking about.....the rounded lobe will contact in that exact spot and can leave that mark.
Even though the tolerances ARE very tight in this area, the way the cams are keyed to the axle the relationship of the cam to the limb fork cannot change and you will not see any degredation over time or any lean imparted. Basically if the cam isn't rubbing at full draw (which it is not or you would feel it immediately) it cannot "degrade" over time and somehow work its way into a position where it would/could contact the limb down the road while shooting......the way the cam and axle fit together will not allow this to happen.
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The mark in question is one that can be made when the cam is rotated during assembly or changing the draw length
The upper rounded lobe of the cam is slightly larger than the "Pointed" end that rotates through the fork and if the dealer,builder, or customer gets a touch heavy handed in either assembly or changing draw length and tries to rotate the cam too far while doing so they can cause that exact swipe mark in the In Velvet clear coat.
It can give the appearance that the cam is hitting or rubbing the fork in that area when drawing or shooting.......it is not.
If you have one in a press and remove the string and cables from their tracks and try to rotate the cam 360 degrees you will see exactly what I'm talking about.....the rounded lobe will contact in that exact spot and can leave that mark.
Even though the tolerances ARE very tight in this area, the way the cams are keyed to the axle the relationship of the cam to the limb fork cannot change and you will not see any degredation over time or any lean imparted. Basically if the cam isn't rubbing at full draw (which it is not or you would feel it immediately) it cannot "degrade" over time and somehow work its way into a position where it would/could contact the limb down the road while shooting......the way the cam and axle fit together will not allow this to happen.
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
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12-30-2009, 05:24 PM
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The only thing that needs to be brought to attention is that a little tiny mark can be there IF the cam is over rotated. Nothing more. Relax. Go back to your Strothers Fanboy site.
12-30-2009, 06:43 PM
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Hmm...end of story...lol. Very Childish Rob
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12-30-2009, 06:44 PM
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Don't be an ass Don. The "issue" was addressed. Don't know who locked it but it was closed, both as an issue and as a thread. Apparently someone with class saw it as moot, the same as this attempt.
The only thing that needs to be brought to attention is that a little tiny mark can be there IF the cam is over rotated. Nothing more. Relax. Go back to your Strothers Fanboy site.
The only thing that needs to be brought to attention is that a little tiny mark can be there IF the cam is over rotated. Nothing more. Relax. Go back to your Strothers Fanboy site.
Time to lock this thread and sweep it under the rug, as it might affect sells and we wouldn't want the public to be aware of any contact issues with these Bowtechs.
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12-30-2009, 06:52 PM
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Hmm...I don't know if we have all of the facts. No one has seen these so called,"bad pro shop workers" actually make the marks on these bows. We are only being told that this is how they happened by Bowtech and their corporate staff advisories. I, and others aren't convinced just because you and Matt say so. BTW, don't tell me where to go, you are the one out of line and acting like a little cry baby cause someone posted pics of Bowtechs all over the nation with a mark on their limbs from too tight of clearance
Too tight of clearance? It's tight tolerances for a reason, flawless performance.
12-30-2009, 06:57 PM
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Now you name call? Classic Don. And who's this not convinced, seems everyone with the marks realize this. Most tested it and it's a fact that NONE of the cams in question touch the limbs. No one said it's strictly "bad pro shop workers" as you put. Some may have been heavy handed at the factory, some at the shops etc.. I think anyone with any intelligence can see and realize the situation. The only ones voicing true concern, A. Don't own one, B. Want to bash. Nothing more.
Too tight of clearance? It's tight tolerances for a reason, flawless performance.
Too tight of clearance? It's tight tolerances for a reason, flawless performance.