draw really harsh on admiral?
09-04-2009, 08:13 PM
#1
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Monroe County, IL
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draw really harsh on admiral?
I have been shooting my new bowtech admiral for most of the year now. Used to shoot 70 lbs, down to 65lbs but it still seems that I have a bit of troble drawing back the bow.
Shot a guardian tonight that belongs to a friend, had it maxed at 72lbs and it drew sooo much easier than the admiral.
Does anyone else have the problem with the admiral just feeling like alot more weight than what it really is?
I'll be ok shooting, but worried about when it gets really cold outside..
Thanks
Shot a guardian tonight that belongs to a friend, had it maxed at 72lbs and it drew sooo much easier than the admiral.
Does anyone else have the problem with the admiral just feeling like alot more weight than what it really is?
I'll be ok shooting, but worried about when it gets really cold outside..
Thanks
09-06-2009, 06:51 AM
#2
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Huntersville, PA
Posts: 215
demoIL,
I just got and Admiral a few weeks ago. I am pulling 65lbs and it does seem to be alot harder than my buddies hoyt which he has at 70lbs.
I am wondering if it is because the ATA is so short that it requires the harsher draw to keep the arrow speed up.
After practicing everyday it am able to draw it alot smoother though.
Wayne
I just got and Admiral a few weeks ago. I am pulling 65lbs and it does seem to be alot harder than my buddies hoyt which he has at 70lbs.
I am wondering if it is because the ATA is so short that it requires the harsher draw to keep the arrow speed up.
After practicing everyday it am able to draw it alot smoother though.
Wayne
09-06-2009, 10:55 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Henderson, KY
Posts: 1,760
I actually honestly thought the admirals draw wasnt too bad. I dont think that its very much worse than the Hoyt Alpha Max.
It may feel a little stiff, but I dont think the hump is that hard to get over like some of the previous bowtech models.
Derek
It may feel a little stiff, but I dont think the hump is that hard to get over like some of the previous bowtech models.
Derek
09-06-2009, 01:46 PM
#4
Host of Hosts
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Location: Erie, Pennsylvania
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X2...I don't notice a harsh draw at all on my admiral. Matter of fact I have to say it's the best Bow I've ever owned. Believe me I've had alot of them
09-06-2009, 08:41 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
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Oh, I love the bow.. Just seems hard to draw for 65lbs.. Was just checking to see if I was alone on this one or not. Was hoping it wasn't something to do with the way it was tuned..
thanks
thanks
09-07-2009, 05:51 AM
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
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Never held one so I really can't say much about that one but I have fooled around with bows and got them to do different things.
It could be the way the strings and cables are setup if they have more than one string. Increasing and shortening them can get you some comfort for speed and some speed for comfort. I really don't care for using "the one that felt the best" approach because the bow might have strings and cables on it but no where near where they could be.
It has to do with where the cycle breaks in the draw. Some peak early and break late and some peak early and break early... Those draw force curve box's tell a tale. The more the box is filled the harder the draw because your storing more energy put there by you. Your still pulling the same weight but not for as long or longer which ever the case maybe.
That's the way I've gone at it and it seems to work for me. Hows the speed of the bow? You might find it's a little faster than some smoother ones.
It could also be a mechanical problem. I just had a bad cam and now that I think of it the metal industry has been squeaking out it's products the past few years and it wouldn't surprise me if the quality has suffered. Copper pipes made in a similar time, the late seventies suffer the same fate, to much steel and not enough copper caused them to rust. Copper and rust doesn't happen. Saw some cast iron pipes suffer a similar fate. Buyer beware these days. Wait a few years and see what happens in the building industry. By law they were force to change things like the glue that holds them together. The new stuff is junk, nothing more than latex caulk. A lot more than you wanted to read I suppose
It could be the way the strings and cables are setup if they have more than one string. Increasing and shortening them can get you some comfort for speed and some speed for comfort. I really don't care for using "the one that felt the best" approach because the bow might have strings and cables on it but no where near where they could be.
It has to do with where the cycle breaks in the draw. Some peak early and break late and some peak early and break early... Those draw force curve box's tell a tale. The more the box is filled the harder the draw because your storing more energy put there by you. Your still pulling the same weight but not for as long or longer which ever the case maybe.
That's the way I've gone at it and it seems to work for me. Hows the speed of the bow? You might find it's a little faster than some smoother ones.
It could also be a mechanical problem. I just had a bad cam and now that I think of it the metal industry has been squeaking out it's products the past few years and it wouldn't surprise me if the quality has suffered. Copper pipes made in a similar time, the late seventies suffer the same fate, to much steel and not enough copper caused them to rust. Copper and rust doesn't happen. Saw some cast iron pipes suffer a similar fate. Buyer beware these days. Wait a few years and see what happens in the building industry. By law they were force to change things like the glue that holds them together. The new stuff is junk, nothing more than latex caulk. A lot more than you wanted to read I suppose
09-07-2009, 07:49 AM
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I too think that the draw on the admiral is stiff.... not harsh... but stiff.... the cycle itself if pretty smooth.... but the draw feels stiff to me too.
I think it has a lot to do with the effective limb length coming from the center pivot point to the axles. It makes the bow basically have 5-6" limbs. Thats part of why it is so quiet and shock free... but something so short doesn't have a lot of flex in it.... and thats why I think it feels stiff.
I think it has a lot to do with the effective limb length coming from the center pivot point to the axles. It makes the bow basically have 5-6" limbs. Thats part of why it is so quiet and shock free... but something so short doesn't have a lot of flex in it.... and thats why I think it feels stiff.
