jklink

never tried them. stick ladders are much easier. about 5 straps and your 20+ feet up. and i yes, i know your arguement "oh, but they are heavy to carry all the way out into the woods" my reply, suck it up. If you shoot a deer, it's heavy too. That deer isn't going to grow wheels when you shoot it. which brings me to my next point. the deer cart. put your ladders, stand, corn, whatever else on it and wheel it out and set it up. you can get a lot farther in the woods when your pulling a cart instead of carrying stuff.

NY/Al

Find me a clearence then.[8D]

hardcorehunter

LOL...no, my reply is that a stick ladder is too restrictive and has to be used on mainly straight trees...and you definately can't follow curves like last nights setup below..plus this is a 30 ft setup..too high for climbing stick ladders which usually come in a 15-17 ft length. I used to have a couple of climbing sticks, sold them. Glad u like yours though.

hardcorehunter

As hunting season is winding down..I will watch for ya

Charlie P

I used them and had the buckle screw up more then once. Used to think they were great until I almost fell. Had a safety harness on.

I started using them when they came with a black strap and then they changed the buckle design,had them slip and amerstep said they were having problems with them and replaced them, this was at least 8-10 years ago, so they might have fixed the problem by now but I'm not risking it. I bought some more after I intially had the problem it was the ones with the design your pictures shows and I had the same problem again. That is their third design.

Yes I knew how to use them in case some one going to question me on that.

I use some of the old ones to hang my bow or gun on but that's it.

Charlie P

When this was going on there was a lengthy thread on the Bowsite about the slippage problem.

I was saying "no way they are great" went out and got more of them and had three of the batch slip on me.

At one point I had about thirty of them.

TEmbry

I too prefer stick ladders. I can get a 20 ft stick ladder for 35 bucks from Sportsmans Guide. It may bend them, but Ive actually used em on some pretty curved trees, they can bend more than alot think, and still go back to straight when removed. For economical NON same day setups, there isnt a cheaper way to get 20 ft up than $35 stick ladders, unless you are a tree monkey with clearance screw in steps placed strategically. 5 minutes tops setup....they would be perfect for same day if it wasn't for weight. Im betting some lighter aluminum stickladders would work awesome, but they are up in the LW price range, so at that point why not just get a LW.

I can pack in a hang on 5 sticks, and have them hung in about 7-10 minutes depending on the tree....and the catch is I sweat LESS than if Im using a climber...I HATE climbers, never have been good or comfortable with them. I am noisy, and nervous climbing with them. I think its cause I had the bottom slip out about 15 ft up when I was first learning to use one..luckily dad was there to lend me a ladder to get down (I was like 12 or 13)...ever since then, I haven't been comfortable in them. I will use them when the need arises and they arent a problem much anymore, but I 10 to 1 prefer hang ons.

WV Hunter

HCH....sounds like you like them and they work for you. I've never used the strap on steps, but have a friend that uses them and likes them too. I always used screw ins but I hate them too! I bet I have 100 out there still in trees. I went to the 20' sticks, and overall I am pretty happy with them. There are certain spots thatLW sticks, or steps would definitely be better, but most of my sets have straight trees, so I'm usually ok with the stick ladders.

TEmbry....Ihave the Millenium, love it. I will agree, it would be the absolute BEST stand ever made it if had a self leveling platform (in fact why don't ALL stands have this feature?you'd think they woulda caught on by now) but overall, I love it. If I was gonna be really mobile (like huntingdifferent sets all the time) its probably not be the best stand. However, I set up most of my spots prior to the season (with 20' sticks also) and all I have to do is take my stand to whatever set I want tohunt, and climb up. If you get it make sure to buy extra receivers, that is the ticket. I have 10 which makes it nice...gives me 10 sets, and I only need 1 stand. Hanging the receiver is easy, and once it is up, there is no easier stand to hang - you just slide it in. Obviously comfort is a no brainer. You can sleep in it if you wanted to. pm me if you want details on where to get it at a really good price

I have used several hang ons. Honestly, I hate hanging or setting up any of them, unless I am putting a set to leave a while. I don't know how you guys that set them, hunt from them, and pull them the same day do it. Personally, thats when I use my climber. My main reason for getting the Millenium was comfort for all day hunts (most every stand will wear on you after 4hrs) and to be able to have a ton of sets with only 1 stand.

hardcorehunter

I keep getting pmed on AT from guys wanting to know if I know anybody selling these on the forums as they want some. Those of you that don't like them..guys are wanting them. Post up on my thread over there saying you want to sell them or pm me and I will be the middle man.

shkyhnds

I am one that maybe interested in taking these off the hands of the users who do not like them. Let me know if you are interested in getting rid of them and what price you are looking at. Thanks