Shooting does with fawns?
09-24-2008, 08:26 AM
#52
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
For everyone who says they need there mom when the snow hits In the dead of winter, how or where do you get the idea that there still hanging with mom?? She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns. In the winter months deer will herd up In bigger groups when there's ample snow. They all will paw away through the ice If Its there and get there food. The strong will live and the weak one's will die. The most likely candidates are the fawns and also the bucks that have been chasing doe's the last 6 weeks that will die 1st.
09-24-2008, 08:29 AM
#53
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
For everyone who says they need there mom when the snow hits In the dead of winter, how or where do you get the idea that there still hanging with mom?? She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns. In the winter months deer will herd up In bigger groups when there's ample snow. They all will paw away through the ice If Its there and get there food. The strong will live and the weak one's will die. The most likely candidates are the fawns and also the bucks that have been chasing doe's the last 6 weeks that will die 1st.
For everyone who says they need there mom when the snow hits In the dead of winter, how or where do you get the idea that there still hanging with mom?? She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns. In the winter months deer will herd up In bigger groups when there's ample snow. They all will paw away through the ice If Its there and get there food. The strong will live and the weak one's will die. The most likely candidates are the fawns and also the bucks that have been chasing doe's the last 6 weeks that will die 1st.
09-24-2008, 08:33 AM
#54
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
I killed a doe with "fawns" a few years ago in December. I remember looking at the doe when I found her...there was milk dripping from her nipples. It was kind of hard to see but the fawns were already healthy looking. The game biologist aged the doe at 8.5 years old.
09-24-2008, 08:33 AM
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns.
Brett:
I killed a doe with "fawns" a few years ago in December. I remember looking at the doe when I found her...there was milk dripping from her nipples. It was kind of hard to see but the fawns were already healthy looking.
Though they may continue supplemental nursing into the early bow season, they are fully capable of surviving on their own if the doe is harvested. The moral dilemma is more an issue of perception or misconception, rather than biology.
09-24-2008, 08:39 AM
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
For everyone who says they need there mom when the snow hits In the dead of winter, how or where do you get the idea that there still hanging with mom?? She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns. In the winter months deer will herd up In bigger groups when there's ample snow. They all will paw away through the ice If Its there and get there food. The strong will live and the weak one's will die. The most likely candidates are the fawns and also the bucks that have been chasing doe's the last 6 weeks that will die 1st.
For everyone who says they need there mom when the snow hits In the dead of winter, how or where do you get the idea that there still hanging with mom?? She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns. In the winter months deer will herd up In bigger groups when there's ample snow. They all will paw away through the ice If Its there and get there food. The strong will live and the weak one's will die. The most likely candidates are the fawns and also the bucks that have been chasing doe's the last 6 weeks that will die 1st.
09-24-2008, 08:48 AM
#58
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Schultzy.....It's my understanding that doe fawns will remain with their mothers (in that family group)for life. Do you disagree with this?
She booted them out back In November already and she could care less about her fawns.
09-24-2008, 08:53 AM
#59
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
The reason a doe runs off her buck fawns....is nature's way of preventing in-breeding. She has to worry about her buck fawns breeding his sisters, aunts, etc...
She doesn't have that worry with a doe fawn....and it's my understanding that doe fawns will remain with their mothers (in that doe family group) for life.
She doesn't have that worry with a doe fawn....and it's my understanding that doe fawns will remain with their mothers (in that doe family group) for life.
09-24-2008, 09:07 AM
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RE: Shooting does with fawns?
I go sit in a tree to kill something that I have a tag for in my pocket. We are given the opportunity to hunt and to help manage the deer herd. A fawn will survive just fine if you kill the doe. Anyone that says they wouldn't shoot a doe with fawns in tow would have a hard time ever getting to shoot one here in MO and IL where I hunt. It is uncommon to see a lone doe, and even when you do see one, very rarely is she actually "dry"(without fawns). There is no telling how many does I have killed and I seriously cannot remember a single one of those that didn't have milk in her udder.
Everyone should make their own decision on to shoot or not, but oughta base that decision on reality. The reality is that the fawns are fine and a pass is based on emotion and not ethics or morals.
Everyone should make their own decision on to shoot or not, but oughta base that decision on reality. The reality is that the fawns are fine and a pass is based on emotion and not ethics or morals.
