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#11
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
I like the speed and brace height on the blackhawk but am a little uneasy about the axle to axle length and the potential problems associated with shooting a bow of that size.
I also like the specs on the Mighty Mite though I think I would like the brace a bit bigger for my " perfect bow" specs.
Those would be my two choices though.
I also like the specs on the Mighty Mite though I think I would like the brace a bit bigger for my " perfect bow" specs.
Those would be my two choices though.
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 4,668
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
Phil,
How is the dually compared to the Pat 02???
Just out of curiosity..........what did you get for the Patriot??
Always interests me how the value of each bow changes from year to year.
Selling anything now??
How is the dually compared to the Pat 02???
Just out of curiosity..........what did you get for the Patriot??
Always interests me how the value of each bow changes from year to year.
Selling anything now??
#14
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
Mark, the Dually is a little stiffer to draw. The grip is a huge improvement, though with some work (I redid the one on the P38) the 02 grip is livable. It' s way faster, same draw weight & length, but 21 fps faster. This thing hits like a truck. Mine shot 288 at 55# with a 368 gr arrow, through a chrono. I like the balance and overall feel of the Dually much better. Having shot the P38 DC for the past year, I' ve come to like the shorter valley and 65% let off. The Dually is hands down a better bow, IMO. I sold the 02 for $475. bare. I had it about 10 months.
I missed the sale question. Wanna buy an 8 sec street legal race car?
I missed the sale question. Wanna buy an 8 sec street legal race car?
#15
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
Are the 2002 mightymites exactly the same as the 2003' s?
I (yawn, I know I know) have a Blackhawk on order which is supposed to be in on Thursday (dealer said a " factory glitch" caused a delay{after checking}- I think this could be translated into " oh crap, I forgot to order that bow, good thing he called to check on it' s arrival date" ). I won' t have a chance to go and get it until Monday or Tuesday.
When I go to try it out I also plan on looking at/shooting his 2002 mighty mites he has in stock for a discounted price of more than what some people paid for their' s new in 2002!! my luck....
stodr, you mention the tech 29 is no good fro someone with over 29" draw. I shoot a 29" draw with string loop- is the blackhawk at 28.88" going to be too short for me to use with a peep?
I (yawn, I know I know) have a Blackhawk on order which is supposed to be in on Thursday (dealer said a " factory glitch" caused a delay{after checking}- I think this could be translated into " oh crap, I forgot to order that bow, good thing he called to check on it' s arrival date" ). I won' t have a chance to go and get it until Monday or Tuesday.
When I go to try it out I also plan on looking at/shooting his 2002 mighty mites he has in stock for a discounted price of more than what some people paid for their' s new in 2002!! my luck....
stodr, you mention the tech 29 is no good fro someone with over 29" draw. I shoot a 29" draw with string loop- is the blackhawk at 28.88" going to be too short for me to use with a peep?
#16
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
DaveC,
From what I have heard, there were VERY VERY minor adjustments in the cams between the 02 and 03 MightyMites. Other than that, they are the same.
I love my MM, talk about a sweet bow. Here are some of my new pics of it.....
Here is a pic with my new Simms Cable Rod Dampeners, Simms Virgin Teflon Cable Slide, and my Camo Release loop on it.....
Here is an older pic of the bow, with some of my previous accessories on it...
Here is a pic of the bow now, not entirely set-up but getting there, I have my Toxonics Hybrid IV sight on it, my Simm Cable Rod Dampeners, Simms Virgin Teflon Cable Slide, Camo Release Loop, N.A.P. QuickTune 3000 Micro Arrow rest, Simm Limb Savers, and my bracket for my Kwikee Kombo Kwiver. I still have to get my Simms String Leechs, Dusk Vision Peep Sight, Stabilizer, Simms Mini Limb Savers, Simms Insulator Wrap, and my BuckWing Braided Wrist Sling on it, then it will be all ready to go
and here is an older pic of me drawing the bow back...
From what I have heard, there were VERY VERY minor adjustments in the cams between the 02 and 03 MightyMites. Other than that, they are the same.
I love my MM, talk about a sweet bow. Here are some of my new pics of it.....
Here is a pic with my new Simms Cable Rod Dampeners, Simms Virgin Teflon Cable Slide, and my Camo Release loop on it.....
Here is an older pic of the bow, with some of my previous accessories on it...
Here is a pic of the bow now, not entirely set-up but getting there, I have my Toxonics Hybrid IV sight on it, my Simm Cable Rod Dampeners, Simms Virgin Teflon Cable Slide, Camo Release Loop, N.A.P. QuickTune 3000 Micro Arrow rest, Simm Limb Savers, and my bracket for my Kwikee Kombo Kwiver. I still have to get my Simms String Leechs, Dusk Vision Peep Sight, Stabilizer, Simms Mini Limb Savers, Simms Insulator Wrap, and my BuckWing Braided Wrist Sling on it, then it will be all ready to go
and here is an older pic of me drawing the bow back...
#17
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
Looks like a nice set up. Just wondering -did you tie on that string loop? or the shop where you bought it.
It looks like it could easily loose another .25-.5" in length. This would either get you closer to your original draw length before the loop, or add power stroke if your draw length is now correct with it in it' s current condition. (by adding it back to the draw of the bow).
If that' s just a tie on for the picture, then ignore the following.
If not---
You can loosen one of those knots and get the loop as small as you can make it with still enough room for your release. Cut the loose ends to about .25" showing, and then burn them until they form little balls. Then attch your release and draw your bow a couple of times, seating the burned ends into the knot. This will stretch your loop out to just enough space for the nock to fit on the string plus your release without the release hitting the arrows nock. Any more space is wasted power stroke.
I was looking at my reflex yesterday (while waiting in my tripod for mr. piggy) and after doing the previous recommendations it has stretched to about a .25" gap between the release and arrow knock. A little more than it used to be, but any more and the lighter will be headed its way!!
Oh and you don' t need the brass knock either (that' s worth 2-3fps). I' ve been shooting loops for at least 2 years now knock free with no adverse affects. I even use the loop to align my peep.
Take this advice for what it worth and I appreceate the help you been for my decision on which bow to get. I know when I' m at the shop shooting them I' ll be telling myself " buckmagnet really loves his mightymite"
Don' t know if I can cough up another $125.00 [X(]for it over the blackhawk though. Oh well the shooting will decide!!
It looks like it could easily loose another .25-.5" in length. This would either get you closer to your original draw length before the loop, or add power stroke if your draw length is now correct with it in it' s current condition. (by adding it back to the draw of the bow).
If that' s just a tie on for the picture, then ignore the following.
If not---
You can loosen one of those knots and get the loop as small as you can make it with still enough room for your release. Cut the loose ends to about .25" showing, and then burn them until they form little balls. Then attch your release and draw your bow a couple of times, seating the burned ends into the knot. This will stretch your loop out to just enough space for the nock to fit on the string plus your release without the release hitting the arrows nock. Any more space is wasted power stroke.
I was looking at my reflex yesterday (while waiting in my tripod for mr. piggy) and after doing the previous recommendations it has stretched to about a .25" gap between the release and arrow knock. A little more than it used to be, but any more and the lighter will be headed its way!!
Oh and you don' t need the brass knock either (that' s worth 2-3fps). I' ve been shooting loops for at least 2 years now knock free with no adverse affects. I even use the loop to align my peep.
Take this advice for what it worth and I appreceate the help you been for my decision on which bow to get. I know when I' m at the shop shooting them I' ll be telling myself " buckmagnet really loves his mightymite"
Don' t know if I can cough up another $125.00 [X(]for it over the blackhawk though. Oh well the shooting will decide!!
#18
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
DaveC,
That was the first string loop I ever tied. I was just experimenting to see how had it was. The directions on the back of the package STUNK so, I had to play around for awhile until I figured it out. I plan on shortening it up some. As far as the nock goes, that will probablly just stay. It is a nice reference point for me. Who really cares about 2 f.p.s. with a bow that IBO' s at 324 f.p.s.
Well, have fun bragging about my bow for me. I absolutely LOVE the thing. It fits me like a glove. Alot of people think that it is too short of an axle to axle, but, I don' t see any difference in its size as compared to my 2002 Hoyt MT Sport which was 3" longer a.t.a.
How much are the 03 and 02 MightyMites going for in your area? I got a great deal on my 03 MM for 544.00 plus tax. They normally sell for 599.00 here. The 02 MM' s are selling around here for around 540.00-550.00
That was the first string loop I ever tied. I was just experimenting to see how had it was. The directions on the back of the package STUNK so, I had to play around for awhile until I figured it out. I plan on shortening it up some. As far as the nock goes, that will probablly just stay. It is a nice reference point for me. Who really cares about 2 f.p.s. with a bow that IBO' s at 324 f.p.s.
Well, have fun bragging about my bow for me. I absolutely LOVE the thing. It fits me like a glove. Alot of people think that it is too short of an axle to axle, but, I don' t see any difference in its size as compared to my 2002 Hoyt MT Sport which was 3" longer a.t.a.
How much are the 03 and 02 MightyMites going for in your area? I got a great deal on my 03 MM for 544.00 plus tax. They normally sell for 599.00 here. The 02 MM' s are selling around here for around 540.00-550.00
#20
RE: Bowtech opinions for a new hunting bow
He told me he' s knocking $30.00 off the 2002 mighty mites. To bring it to a whopping $570.00 before tax. Thats' $622 after tax.
Not a great bargain in my book. Maybe he' ll come down more if he sees that I' m about to walk without either- if it comes to that.
The blackhawk is $496 after tax. He made me a " good deal" on it since it was ordered. But assured me that if I din' t like it when it came in that there would be no hard feelings because he could easily sell it.
Stodr, I downloaded the 2003 manual from bowtech and it listed the brace at 8 1/8" instead of 8" . It just keeps getting better!!
Not a great bargain in my book. Maybe he' ll come down more if he sees that I' m about to walk without either- if it comes to that.
The blackhawk is $496 after tax. He made me a " good deal" on it since it was ordered. But assured me that if I din' t like it when it came in that there would be no hard feelings because he could easily sell it.
Stodr, I downloaded the 2003 manual from bowtech and it listed the brace at 8 1/8" instead of 8" . It just keeps getting better!!