End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
03-15-2003, 09:29 AM
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End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Get a load of this guy! And I quote from Wisconsin News Magazine-
I would like to congratulate Tom Coon on his buck. He killed it with a " real" bow- a recurve. I' m congratulating Tom because it gets alittle frustrating seeing so many big bucks being killed by socalled " bow" hunters. There should be a qualification to their kill and that is that they used a compound bow, which is closer to a shotgun and slugs than it is to a recurve or long bow.
I have nothing against bow hunting, but the season length was initally designed for the recurve and long bow. The compound should be limited, just as the rifle is limited. It is too effective of a weapon to go under the guise of a " bow." Give compound users a season until about Oct. 25- then it is anterless until the rifle season or after the rifle season.
The guys name is Michael Cole of Wisconsin Rapids
I have a suggestion for Mr. Cole, if the recurve and long bow are not very effective, maybe we should outlaw them, arent we suppose to take every available means to harvest an animal quickly and humainly with the weapon WE CHOSE, I get the feeling that Mr. Cole isnt very good with the " bow" he picked to use.
I personally use both long bow and compound, I can hit a deer with either one. It depends on how I feel that day on which one I will use.
He compares the compound bow to a shotgun, yes thats right a shotgun, whatever, I' m not even going to comment on that stupidity.
He also says the original season was set up for long and recurve bows, not compounds- the season was set up for archery hunting (this means bows too Mr. Cole if you did' nt know that). Back then compounds were not widly used, only because they were more widely produced latter (if you did' nt know that either Mr. Cole).It is called technology.
I could continue on talking about what a dipstick this guy is, but unlike him I would like to see ALL hunters get along, no matter how they pursue their intended meal.
If anybody knows Mr. Cole thank him for giving more ammo to the antis.
I would like everyone to respond to this no matter what your side, I will be writting a response to Mr. Coles letter in the next issue of Wisconsin News.
I would like to congratulate Tom Coon on his buck. He killed it with a " real" bow- a recurve. I' m congratulating Tom because it gets alittle frustrating seeing so many big bucks being killed by socalled " bow" hunters. There should be a qualification to their kill and that is that they used a compound bow, which is closer to a shotgun and slugs than it is to a recurve or long bow.
I have nothing against bow hunting, but the season length was initally designed for the recurve and long bow. The compound should be limited, just as the rifle is limited. It is too effective of a weapon to go under the guise of a " bow." Give compound users a season until about Oct. 25- then it is anterless until the rifle season or after the rifle season.
The guys name is Michael Cole of Wisconsin Rapids
I have a suggestion for Mr. Cole, if the recurve and long bow are not very effective, maybe we should outlaw them, arent we suppose to take every available means to harvest an animal quickly and humainly with the weapon WE CHOSE, I get the feeling that Mr. Cole isnt very good with the " bow" he picked to use.
I personally use both long bow and compound, I can hit a deer with either one. It depends on how I feel that day on which one I will use.
He compares the compound bow to a shotgun, yes thats right a shotgun, whatever, I' m not even going to comment on that stupidity.
He also says the original season was set up for long and recurve bows, not compounds- the season was set up for archery hunting (this means bows too Mr. Cole if you did' nt know that). Back then compounds were not widly used, only because they were more widely produced latter (if you did' nt know that either Mr. Cole).It is called technology.
I could continue on talking about what a dipstick this guy is, but unlike him I would like to see ALL hunters get along, no matter how they pursue their intended meal.
If anybody knows Mr. Cole thank him for giving more ammo to the antis.
I would like everyone to respond to this no matter what your side, I will be writting a response to Mr. Coles letter in the next issue of Wisconsin News.
03-15-2003, 11:58 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Dumb isn' t the word I would use.Moron is more fitting.
I have great respect for traditional hunters and do believe there should be a different catagory in the record books but to compare a compound bow to a shotgun is just moronic.I have hunted with a shotgun and not once did I have to draw it and hold it without being seen.Heck there are shotguns that are made for deer hunting that shoot 100 yards or more accurately.I also havn' t seen too many twigs throw a slug way off course causing a miss.
Yeah,moron is a more fitting word to use.
I have great respect for traditional hunters and do believe there should be a different catagory in the record books but to compare a compound bow to a shotgun is just moronic.I have hunted with a shotgun and not once did I have to draw it and hold it without being seen.Heck there are shotguns that are made for deer hunting that shoot 100 yards or more accurately.I also havn' t seen too many twigs throw a slug way off course causing a miss.
Yeah,moron is a more fitting word to use.
03-15-2003, 12:35 PM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
I have all the respect in the world for hunters using traditional equipment, but at the same time I have just as much respect for those who use compounds. Its an individual choice on using a weapon, and it takes as much knowledge to hunt with either. It also takes maturity and intelligence to decide what weapon is best for us, and I choose to use the weapon I am more proficient with.
As you can see with this article, there will always be those who place their egos and immaturity first. Perhaps this guy is jealous of someone he knows using a compound to take a big buck he was hunting. I suspect personal motives was behind his immature thinking and poor reasoning was behind his comments.
As you can see with this article, there will always be those who place their egos and immaturity first. Perhaps this guy is jealous of someone he knows using a compound to take a big buck he was hunting. I suspect personal motives was behind his immature thinking and poor reasoning was behind his comments.
03-15-2003, 07:40 PM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Most seasons are extended to cull the expanding herds so according to mr. coles the compound would be a better choice over the recurve and long bow. So in reality he' s contradicting the system.
03-15-2003, 08:08 PM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
I believe the next category below moron is idiot. I agree the guy has only one person in mind with his comments. After he has eliminated all the compound (and crossbow) hunters, let him whine when he finds out he no longer has any political clout. Like it or not, the PRIVILEGE we have to hunt is granted thru legislation (politics, if you will) and we need all the voter pressure we can garner. His comparison of the bow, any bow, (including the crossbow), to a shotgun is idiotic. I' m sure there are some that will take exception to my including crossbows in the discussion, but if we cut them out, aren' t we putting ourselves in Michael Coles' shoes? I thought people from Wisconson had more sense than this.
03-16-2003, 07:54 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Lots of good, old fashioned knee jerking going on here. Anybody know whether Mr. Cole even shoots a bow or not? Could be he' s one of the masses that' s supposed to be who we' re wanting to sway over to our side and here all you guys are, calling him an idiot, moron, what-have-you. Now, if he reads this thread, he' ll not only think badly about compounds but be pretty sure anyone that shoots one is an a__hole. Good job, fellers. That' s the way to make friends and influence people. [:' (]
Maybe you should think of positive things to say FOR compounds rather than send a response that only says the guy is an idiot... This is an opportunity. You can either use it to advance the sport or you can use it the other way...
Maybe you should think of positive things to say FOR compounds rather than send a response that only says the guy is an idiot... This is an opportunity. You can either use it to advance the sport or you can use it the other way...
03-16-2003, 08:18 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
I have all the respect in the world for hunters using traditional equipment, but at the same time I have just as much respect for those who use compounds. Its an individual choice on using a weapon, and it takes as much knowledge to hunt with either.
03-16-2003, 07:58 PM
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Well I really hate to do this BUT, I was wondering, when can a hunter stand up for the sport he or she loves and has a great sense of loyalty towards?
I guess what I am refering to is this........first of all I am not writing this to start a fight or debate. Obviously by looking at the total hits on this there are alot of hunters out there that dont want to get involved in this by posting a response. But it sounds like Arthur P says that we as hunters should not stand up for our sport vocally and defend it against others that are trying to inact laws against hunting, mainly antis. I dont mean this badly Arthur P but, when can I defend myself against these non-thinking people (I hope thats o.k to say), I hate to offend someone, someone that is attacking us every day that we as hunters are in the field trying to continue a sport that we love, that for most of us is a passion.
Most people in this day and age defend their way of life or the things they enjoy very defensively, that is most people except hunters, why? I do agree with you (Arthur P) that we should not name call, even though it is very clear to us all that Mr.Cole is an actual hunter (with his brain in left field somewhere) that just wants to hog big deer for himself during the rut. This is probably why we consider Mr. Cole an " idiot" for lack of a better term.
I really dont think this disagreement is between anybody else besides a greedy hunter and others that just want to enjoy their sport. No antis involved here, but I will keep your (Arthur P)opinion in mind as I wright a response in Wisconsin Outdoor News, Thank you for your thoughts Arthur P and everyone else, and please keep responding to this thread, I would like alot more responses, even just a Agree or Disagree with Mr. Cole.
I guess what I am refering to is this........first of all I am not writing this to start a fight or debate. Obviously by looking at the total hits on this there are alot of hunters out there that dont want to get involved in this by posting a response. But it sounds like Arthur P says that we as hunters should not stand up for our sport vocally and defend it against others that are trying to inact laws against hunting, mainly antis. I dont mean this badly Arthur P but, when can I defend myself against these non-thinking people (I hope thats o.k to say), I hate to offend someone, someone that is attacking us every day that we as hunters are in the field trying to continue a sport that we love, that for most of us is a passion.
Most people in this day and age defend their way of life or the things they enjoy very defensively, that is most people except hunters, why? I do agree with you (Arthur P) that we should not name call, even though it is very clear to us all that Mr.Cole is an actual hunter (with his brain in left field somewhere) that just wants to hog big deer for himself during the rut. This is probably why we consider Mr. Cole an " idiot" for lack of a better term.
I really dont think this disagreement is between anybody else besides a greedy hunter and others that just want to enjoy their sport. No antis involved here, but I will keep your (Arthur P)opinion in mind as I wright a response in Wisconsin Outdoor News, Thank you for your thoughts Arthur P and everyone else, and please keep responding to this thread, I would like alot more responses, even just a Agree or Disagree with Mr. Cole.
03-16-2003, 10:45 PM
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I really don' t normally get into name calling but I am not above it. Mr.Cole started this.Are we really " so called" bow hunters?Can you really compare a bow to a shotgun?
I don' t believe in being politically correct in these situations.Right or wrong that is the way I see it.
How can this kind of " so called" writer get this type of article published?Giving credit where credit is due,yes, but to go on and discredit anyone that uses a compound to kill record deer,COME ON.
I agree with him that it is more of a challenge to kill a record buck with traditional equipment but he is basicaly going on to say it is too easy to use a compound so they shouldn' t be catagorized as a bow.Come on Arthur,What would you use to describe these kind of statements.
I don' t believe in being politically correct in these situations.Right or wrong that is the way I see it.
How can this kind of " so called" writer get this type of article published?Giving credit where credit is due,yes, but to go on and discredit anyone that uses a compound to kill record deer,COME ON.
I agree with him that it is more of a challenge to kill a record buck with traditional equipment but he is basicaly going on to say it is too easy to use a compound so they shouldn' t be catagorized as a bow.Come on Arthur,What would you use to describe these kind of statements.