End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
03-16-2003, 11:06 PM
#11
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
If you really think I meant that we shouldn' t defend the sport based on my post, then I not sure I really trust your interpretation of what Mr. Cole wrote in the article. Seems your reading comprehension is a little skewed. Either that or you went out of your way trying to insult me because I don' t agree with your approach.
What I mean is you can defend the sport much better by carefully explaining your feelings about it without being offensive. Calling someone an idiot or moron certainly does nothing to win them over to your side. Around these parts, it' s the quickest way to get a boot in the groin that I know of.
Now, you are going to write a letter to the editors. IF they elect to print it, the editors will give Mr Cole a copy of your letter and offer to let him write a response. If you just write in and say he' s an idiot, then his response will be easy. More or less, ' I told you they were brainless jerks.'
What you need to do is lay out your philosophy about bowhunting. Throw in a few facts and figures about bowhunter demographics, herd population and habitat condition. Show that compounds are needed in the pre-rut and then most everyone with a functional pair of brain cells rubbing together can see that his position is ridiculous.
First, figure out why you shoot the equipment you shoot and calmly and reasonably as possible, write it down. Take my reasons for instance - I much prefer longbows, but I shoot compounds because I' m getting older and I' m pretty seriously disabled. I can comfortably shoot 60 pound draw compounds, but no way can I handle a stickbow in a hunting draw weight any longer. Should I be denied access to the pre rut simply because I am not physically capable of shooting a stickbow accurately any more?
That' s the kind of thing you need in your reply. Serious REASONING vs hotheaded nonsense.
What I mean is you can defend the sport much better by carefully explaining your feelings about it without being offensive. Calling someone an idiot or moron certainly does nothing to win them over to your side. Around these parts, it' s the quickest way to get a boot in the groin that I know of.
Now, you are going to write a letter to the editors. IF they elect to print it, the editors will give Mr Cole a copy of your letter and offer to let him write a response. If you just write in and say he' s an idiot, then his response will be easy. More or less, ' I told you they were brainless jerks.'
What you need to do is lay out your philosophy about bowhunting. Throw in a few facts and figures about bowhunter demographics, herd population and habitat condition. Show that compounds are needed in the pre-rut and then most everyone with a functional pair of brain cells rubbing together can see that his position is ridiculous.
First, figure out why you shoot the equipment you shoot and calmly and reasonably as possible, write it down. Take my reasons for instance - I much prefer longbows, but I shoot compounds because I' m getting older and I' m pretty seriously disabled. I can comfortably shoot 60 pound draw compounds, but no way can I handle a stickbow in a hunting draw weight any longer. Should I be denied access to the pre rut simply because I am not physically capable of shooting a stickbow accurately any more?
That' s the kind of thing you need in your reply. Serious REASONING vs hotheaded nonsense.
03-17-2003, 08:46 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
As a die-hard traditional bowhunter, that part of the article you quoted is not something I agree with.
Despite my personal feelings towards certain " equipment" , I certainly wouldn' t make public statements to that effect...especially in a state that just legalized crossguns for use in the archery season by anyone 65 or older.
I' m guessing that this was a Letter to the Editor, and not an article?
JRW
Despite my personal feelings towards certain " equipment" , I certainly wouldn' t make public statements to that effect...especially in a state that just legalized crossguns for use in the archery season by anyone 65 or older.
I' m guessing that this was a Letter to the Editor, and not an article?
JRW
03-17-2003, 09:31 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Don Loch, I see why your getting up in arms, but really arent the people who count and have some sense going to be able to read between the lines of that article. This is the same thing I run into at my local club. Same old debate. Choice of weapons of course will never matter. It still comes down to " Deer knowledge." The guys a whining goob. I would think most would see that, laugh, put his name in the toys for tots drawing, and move on. Please Santa, give Goober boy shooting lessons for Christmas. I do applaud your writing a response. If written with panache and containing clear statistics it couldnt hurt. Good luck.
03-17-2003, 11:41 PM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
O.K. I had a good one but I' m getting confused. Lets try this again. Opinions on mr. Coles letter please. Not bashing of free americans voicing their opinions of Mr. Coles letter. They have the same rights as Mr.Cole. And no, I would not write a response to Cole and call him an idiot, even if he was one. And I hope he does see this thread , maybe he would wake up and smell the Petunia' s.
I really dont think we have to make Cole hate us, its pretty clear he already has his mind set, so I don' t think I will try to kiss and make up with him. Any body else want too?
But I do (really) respect your opinion Arthur. Just like everyone elses.
More opinions, Do you Agree with Cole or Not, Very simple.
Happy hunting you compound fool' s![:-]
I really dont think we have to make Cole hate us, its pretty clear he already has his mind set, so I don' t think I will try to kiss and make up with him. Any body else want too?
But I do (really) respect your opinion Arthur. Just like everyone elses.
More opinions, Do you Agree with Cole or Not, Very simple.
Happy hunting you compound fool' s![:-]
03-18-2003, 01:38 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
I read that article Don , it (he) was pathetic! We get moronic letters sent into WON every month.
The article is in the " opinions" section. These are the opinions of subscribers who send in their opinions to have published. Mr Cole is just another classic example of the hooray for me and f**K you attitude! He has writtten other bowhunting bashing articles in support of longer gun seasons and shorter bow seasons. Arthur , if you read all of this garbage that is sent in by our so called hunting brothers each month , you' d be the first in line with a baseball bat
Every month we get perfect examples of hunters dividing hunters[:' (]
The article is in the " opinions" section. These are the opinions of subscribers who send in their opinions to have published. Mr Cole is just another classic example of the hooray for me and f**K you attitude! He has writtten other bowhunting bashing articles in support of longer gun seasons and shorter bow seasons. Arthur , if you read all of this garbage that is sent in by our so called hunting brothers each month , you' d be the first in line with a baseball bat
Every month we get perfect examples of hunters dividing hunters[:' (]
03-18-2003, 08:15 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
I don' t think that calling this guy names does anyone any good. He obviously has not spent a lot of time with archery equipment and is most likely basing his views on hearsay.
With that being said, I have a challenge for Mr. Coles if you are out there. Get yourself a compound, recurve, and a shotgun with slugs. Practice so you are proficient with each. Then we will go out into the wood and set up some realistic hunting scenarios and let you shoot at some deer targets. After realize that in most situations your effective hunting range even with the " best" compound is limited to under 30 yards, you may want to rethink your remarks.
With that being said, I have a challenge for Mr. Coles if you are out there. Get yourself a compound, recurve, and a shotgun with slugs. Practice so you are proficient with each. Then we will go out into the wood and set up some realistic hunting scenarios and let you shoot at some deer targets. After realize that in most situations your effective hunting range even with the " best" compound is limited to under 30 yards, you may want to rethink your remarks.
03-18-2003, 08:24 AM
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RE: End Compound Bow Use Before The Rut
Mr Cole is just another classic example of the hooray for me and f**K you attitude! He has writtten other bowhunting bashing articles in support of longer gun seasons and shorter bow seasons.