Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
01-21-2002, 05:30 PM
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Binghamton New York USA
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Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
I read in the PGC news and notes on their Web site that there is a proposal for a 400 grain minimum arrow weight for deer hunting next year. (35 lbs. minimum draw weight also) What do you guys think about that?
01-21-2002, 05:45 PM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Vinton VA
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RE: Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
I would say it is a just another useless proposal that will do nothing to enhance bowhunting or the ability to kill game more cleanly. I am refering to the 400 grn rule. I realy don't have a problem with the 35 lbs draw weight.
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01-21-2002, 06:46 PM
#4
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 134
RE: Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
It must be a fact that the idiots who make proposals such as the 400gr deal have no brains whatsoever!!!!!!!
You can have a 600gr arrow and hit the deer in the A$$ and get the same result as a 300gr arrow.Why is that so hard to see?????? Am I missing something?
You can have a 600gr arrow and hit the deer in the A$$ and get the same result as a 300gr arrow.Why is that so hard to see?????? Am I missing something?
01-21-2002, 06:47 PM
#5
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dover, PA USA
Posts: 5,497
RE: Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
Tell the dirt on the other side of all the deer I've killed that it only got hit by 370 grains.
Just another example of PGC only taking one variable into account in order to propose new regs here.....there are roughly 1,000,000 things that you could change to improve hunting here and they just keep coming up with new garbage every year.
Pretty soon I'm going to have to hire an lawyer to review my ever growing regs book to tell me what I can shoot, and where, and with what at what time......and what I'll need to be shooting and wearing at the same time.
Is a 350 grain arrow a problem out of Junior's 35# bow??.......maybe. I don't know enough about what else is going on. Broadhead type, is it a hard cam 35# or an old wheel bow? Is everything tuned?
Take the same arrow out of my bow (if I choose) at 336fps?? and 88 ft lbs of KE??.......I'm not really seeing a problem.
Maybe for 2003 we'll see a proposal for no bows weighing less than 4lbs.......or maybe we'll have to stand on one foot when we shoot......who knows. Give me a break.
Just another example of PGC only taking one variable into account in order to propose new regs here.....there are roughly 1,000,000 things that you could change to improve hunting here and they just keep coming up with new garbage every year.
Pretty soon I'm going to have to hire an lawyer to review my ever growing regs book to tell me what I can shoot, and where, and with what at what time......and what I'll need to be shooting and wearing at the same time.
Is a 350 grain arrow a problem out of Junior's 35# bow??.......maybe. I don't know enough about what else is going on. Broadhead type, is it a hard cam 35# or an old wheel bow? Is everything tuned?
Take the same arrow out of my bow (if I choose) at 336fps?? and 88 ft lbs of KE??.......I'm not really seeing a problem.
Maybe for 2003 we'll see a proposal for no bows weighing less than 4lbs.......or maybe we'll have to stand on one foot when we shoot......who knows. Give me a break.
01-21-2002, 08:14 PM
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Heaven IA USA
Posts: 2,597
RE: Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
Lilhunter:
My point exactly! Another piece of equipment for the tax payer to pay for.
Everytime another reg. is made it chips away at one of the freedoms that makes this country the great country that it is. There are a number of states that require no more than a 65 % let-off. Shoot, is that effective or actual? Does hystersis play a role in their measurement? Can the officers tell the difference?
It just muddies the water in my opinion. Someone that knows the facts sees through these ridiculous proposals, but the ones making the legislative changes are usually unexperienced in what they are proposing.
My point exactly! Another piece of equipment for the tax payer to pay for.
Everytime another reg. is made it chips away at one of the freedoms that makes this country the great country that it is. There are a number of states that require no more than a 65 % let-off. Shoot, is that effective or actual? Does hystersis play a role in their measurement? Can the officers tell the difference?
It just muddies the water in my opinion. Someone that knows the facts sees through these ridiculous proposals, but the ones making the legislative changes are usually unexperienced in what they are proposing.
01-21-2002, 08:37 PM
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Grindstone Branch KY USA
Posts: 318
RE: Pennsylvania 400 grain arrow minimum.
i have heard of the 900 grain restriction in alaska. just for your information, i went to the local archery shop, and weighed a fiberglass fishing arrow. 725 grains, ready to shoot deer. i would probably remove the fish head, and use an expandable head. sure wouldnt have a problem with energy there boy. i think the 900 grain thing is crazy, but the 400 grain rule is more in line, although i dont think they should impose that on shooters either. if anything, there needs to be a proficentcy test, just to make sure you can shoot your bow. that to me would be more important that a heavier arrow. a heavy arrow in the gut is no better that a light arrow in the gut. no matter how much you polish a volkswagon, it is still a volkswagon.