I hit one and can't find it!!........
09-26-2008, 06:27 PM
#61
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southeast, Va
Posts: 3,965
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
Very true Rob. That's why I said I would wait several hrs and go back in the middle of the night or just wait til I got off work and go. With this incident Im speaking of, I knew I hit him good enough to take him out, it was a matter of waiting him out.. if it were a gut shot I would have waited until 1 am or so to go. I have learned my lesson on pushing deer too soon years ago.
09-26-2008, 07:10 PM
#62
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: North Lima Ohio & Clarion Pa
Posts: 6,453
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
Yes GMMAT sometimes "how to live with it" is exactly right.
But I do agree with the original post and didn't read much but the first page.
Every year when the first thread like that hits the board we are encouraging and as helpful as possible. By the 5th one we are angry and bitter.
If you've done all, you know you can, and read Rob's post and looked again, if even just for your sanity's sake, it's done. Many of us will look a third and fourth time. But know each time out it only gets more futile. At some point you have to learn to deal with it.
I'd guess inhalf of theinstances the shot wasn't lethal. A little bit of blood can look like gallons splattered on the ground. Did ya ever cut a finger? Those spots look like a CSI crime scene on the kitchen floor!
2 types of hunters make bad hits at some point in their hunting career, those who admit it (or publicly ask for help) and those that don't admit it or keep it between trusted confidants only. If you haven't made a bad hit YET, don't think your bullet-proof it only takes a millisecond to change your record!
But I do agree with the original post and didn't read much but the first page.
Every year when the first thread like that hits the board we are encouraging and as helpful as possible. By the 5th one we are angry and bitter.
If you've done all, you know you can, and read Rob's post and looked again, if even just for your sanity's sake, it's done. Many of us will look a third and fourth time. But know each time out it only gets more futile. At some point you have to learn to deal with it.
I'd guess inhalf of theinstances the shot wasn't lethal. A little bit of blood can look like gallons splattered on the ground. Did ya ever cut a finger? Those spots look like a CSI crime scene on the kitchen floor!
2 types of hunters make bad hits at some point in their hunting career, those who admit it (or publicly ask for help) and those that don't admit it or keep it between trusted confidants only. If you haven't made a bad hit YET, don't think your bullet-proof it only takes a millisecond to change your record!
09-26-2008, 07:14 PM
#63
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
Yes GMMAT sometimes "how to live with it" is exactly right.
But I do agree with the original post and didn't read much but the first page.
Every year when the first thread like that hits the board we are encouraging and as helpful as possible. By the 5th one we are angry and bitter.
If you've done all, you know you can, and read Rob's post and looked again, if even just for your sanity's sake, it's done. Many of us will look a third and fourth time. But know each time out it only gets more futile. At some point you have to learn to deal with it.
I'd guess inhalf of theinstances the shot wasn't lethal. A little bit of blood can look like gallons splattered on the ground. Did ya ever cut a finger? Those spots look like a CSI crime scene on the kitchen floor!
2 types of hunters make bad hits at some point in their hunting career, those who admit it (or publicly ask for help) and those that don't admit it or keep it between trusted confidants only. If you haven't made a bad hit YET, don't think your bullet-proof it only takes a millisecond to change your record!
Yes GMMAT sometimes "how to live with it" is exactly right.
But I do agree with the original post and didn't read much but the first page.
Every year when the first thread like that hits the board we are encouraging and as helpful as possible. By the 5th one we are angry and bitter.
If you've done all, you know you can, and read Rob's post and looked again, if even just for your sanity's sake, it's done. Many of us will look a third and fourth time. But know each time out it only gets more futile. At some point you have to learn to deal with it.
I'd guess inhalf of theinstances the shot wasn't lethal. A little bit of blood can look like gallons splattered on the ground. Did ya ever cut a finger? Those spots look like a CSI crime scene on the kitchen floor!
2 types of hunters make bad hits at some point in their hunting career, those who admit it (or publicly ask for help) and those that don't admit it or keep it between trusted confidants only. If you haven't made a bad hit YET, don't think your bullet-proof it only takes a millisecond to change your record!
09-26-2008, 07:42 PM
#64
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Posts: 21,043
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
2 types of hunters make bad hits at some point in their hunting career, those who admit it (or publicly ask for help) and those that don't admit it or keep it between trusted confidants only. If you haven't made a bad hit YET, don't think your bullet-proof it only takes a millisecond to change your record!
The internet cloak is a sanctimonious garb.
09-26-2008, 09:17 PM
#65
Host of Hosts
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Erie, Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,780
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
Next And this is the sensitive part I guess.......the whole world doesn't need to know that someone is struggling to find an animal they shot or they've given up looking. I've been there myself just last year, but I didn't broadcast to the world what was going on and I worked it out.
09-27-2008, 07:28 AM
#66
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location:
Posts: 297
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
All I have to say about this post is AMEN!
Very well put. You absolutely nailled the way I feel everytime I see those
post that say "help, I hit one"
Out of the park post. Thank you.
DW
Very well put. You absolutely nailled the way I feel everytime I see those
post that say "help, I hit one"
Out of the park post. Thank you.
DW
10-06-2008, 07:40 PM
#68
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: I hit one and can't find it!!........
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
This is always a touchy subject on here and I know it happens believe me.........even good shots can be a challenge sometimes on the trail to recovery.
I'm not quite sure how to approach this so I'll just do my best to say what I feel and see where it goes......
First things first, we see them every year, thread after thread every few daysfrom someone (generally a little known member, or inexperienced hunter) coming on here 2 hrs after letting an arrow go with a thread of that exact title......."Hit one and can't find it"
I'm sorry but it drives me nuts,absolutely bananas,and I'll clarify why.
For one the technical resources are here right in front of every member in the form of Rob's recovery thread pinned to the top for the entire season offering sound advice.........and the day to day conversations we've had over the years on the topic are in the database.
Before you panic, give up ,take up the trail without knowing what to do, or simply want to be the center of attention that night, please take a minute or 2 or 3 and read Rob's thread, search the database for trailing tips etc.
Next And this is the sensitive part I guess.......the whole world doesn't need to know that someone is struggling to find an animal they shot or they've given up looking. I've been there myself just last year, but I didn't broadcast to the world what was going on and I worked it out.
We're here to help, send a PM to me if need be for suggestions, or Rob or any number of guys you might trust and ask the questions privately.
The resources are here for help........I encourage you to use them privately.
Also every year we not only have these threads, but we also have them started by some guy who shoots a deer at night, looks for 2 hrs, gives up and says he can't look anymore because he has to go to work.
And every year that person gets temple punched on every reply thereafter. [:-][:'(]
ADVICE:
If you find yourself in that situation and you have no desire to, or cannot continue the search any further because of work or some other excuse just TRUST me and keep it to yourself, I don't want to hear about it and neither does anybody else.[:@]
It's a case of it being your responsibility as a hunter to do whatever you can to bring that animal home, and if you are going to come on here and basically state to the world "Oh well bummer, I guess coyotes will get it" I guarantee that we are going to crucify you upside-down.
We're here to help, tricky or bad situations happen butI beg of youpeople, use some common sense before you hit send on that keyboard.
THINKbefore you post and ask yourself this question before you do it "Did I honestly do whatever I could do, and everything I know how to do to this point, and am I willing to go the extra mile?"
If the answer is no to any or all of them, they seldom turn out good.
If the answer is yes, still ask yourself this question........"Is this still going to be good reading for the members or non-hunting visitors to this site?"
I'm sympathetic to someone struggling,(I've been thatperson), soPLEASE contact me if you need help....if you're nearby and I'm not on my deathbed I will COME and help!Just please,PLEASE don't ever come on here with a lackluster "Oh well" attitude about losing an animal or you'll get your head handed to you.
I'm not sure if this is coming across correctly but I know there are members out there who know what I'm getting at but it's hard to put into words.......so please before we even have a chance to see the first one, USE COMMON SENSE, reread that thread you are about to start and ask yourself those questions.
Those of you new to the forum might think I'm off base a bit, but the veterans to the process will most likely back this sentiment up, and after you see it the first few times you too will understand exactly where I'm coming from.
This is always a touchy subject on here and I know it happens believe me.........even good shots can be a challenge sometimes on the trail to recovery.
I'm not quite sure how to approach this so I'll just do my best to say what I feel and see where it goes......
First things first, we see them every year, thread after thread every few daysfrom someone (generally a little known member, or inexperienced hunter) coming on here 2 hrs after letting an arrow go with a thread of that exact title......."Hit one and can't find it"
I'm sorry but it drives me nuts,absolutely bananas,and I'll clarify why.
For one the technical resources are here right in front of every member in the form of Rob's recovery thread pinned to the top for the entire season offering sound advice.........and the day to day conversations we've had over the years on the topic are in the database.
Before you panic, give up ,take up the trail without knowing what to do, or simply want to be the center of attention that night, please take a minute or 2 or 3 and read Rob's thread, search the database for trailing tips etc.
Next And this is the sensitive part I guess.......the whole world doesn't need to know that someone is struggling to find an animal they shot or they've given up looking. I've been there myself just last year, but I didn't broadcast to the world what was going on and I worked it out.
We're here to help, send a PM to me if need be for suggestions, or Rob or any number of guys you might trust and ask the questions privately.
The resources are here for help........I encourage you to use them privately.
Also every year we not only have these threads, but we also have them started by some guy who shoots a deer at night, looks for 2 hrs, gives up and says he can't look anymore because he has to go to work.
And every year that person gets temple punched on every reply thereafter. [:-]
[:'(]ADVICE:
If you find yourself in that situation and you have no desire to, or cannot continue the search any further because of work or some other excuse just TRUST me and keep it to yourself, I don't want to hear about it and neither does anybody else.[:@]
It's a case of it being your responsibility as a hunter to do whatever you can to bring that animal home, and if you are going to come on here and basically state to the world "Oh well bummer, I guess coyotes will get it" I guarantee that we are going to crucify you upside-down.
We're here to help, tricky or bad situations happen butI beg of youpeople, use some common sense before you hit send on that keyboard.
THINKbefore you post and ask yourself this question before you do it "Did I honestly do whatever I could do, and everything I know how to do to this point, and am I willing to go the extra mile?"
If the answer is no to any or all of them, they seldom turn out good.
If the answer is yes, still ask yourself this question........"Is this still going to be good reading for the members or non-hunting visitors to this site?"
I'm sympathetic to someone struggling,(I've been thatperson), soPLEASE contact me if you need help....if you're nearby and I'm not on my deathbed I will COME and help!Just please,PLEASE don't ever come on here with a lackluster "Oh well" attitude about losing an animal or you'll get your head handed to you.
I'm not sure if this is coming across correctly but I know there are members out there who know what I'm getting at but it's hard to put into words.......so please before we even have a chance to see the first one, USE COMMON SENSE, reread that thread you are about to start and ask yourself those questions.
Those of you new to the forum might think I'm off base a bit, but the veterans to the process will most likely back this sentiment up, and after you see it the first few times you too will understand exactly where I'm coming from.
