dick_cress

While speed and momentum are important, I' m a believer in Kinetic Energy.

I' m a bow hunter and I know that a bow that fis me well and that I can handle all day long and still make an accurate, clean, quick killing shot, is right for me. If I only shot targets or 3-D' s then I might be more concerned with speed than killing power.

I vote for B . . . the AMO and IBO speeds listed for bows are recorded under ideal conditions and shot by machines.

I admit that my Mathews is not as fast as I thought it would be when I bought but it is ONE HELLOVA SHOOTER . . . and you' ll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

Buck Magnet

I am going to go against the grain here......

If he isn' t happy with the set-up, then, why keep it. Speed isn' t top priority, but, like I have always said, it doesn' t hurt.

I would say that " Joe" should go shoot some more bows and find one that feels the same way as the one mentioned above, but, it gets the speeds he wants. Then he has the best of both worlds.

Can any guy honestly say that they wouldn' t love to have a short a.t.a. bow, with a large brace height, shooting heavy arrows at VERY fast speeds, have NO handshock, have no noise, and have the bow fit your perfectly???? Granted, in alot of cases, this isn' t going to work.

So, like I said, have Joe shoot some more bows and see if he finds one that feels exactly the same, and performs exactly the same, but with the extra speed that he wants.

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JRW

Krisken,

Until the laws of gravity are somehow negated, no bow will ever shoot " flat" out to any yardage...except zero.

JRW

6ptsika

Bottom line, if the man' s not happy with his purchase, he failed to do his homework, and should suck it up, and get a new bow.
If he wants a 300fps bow, he should take the time to learn what that is, and go get himself one.
Of course I' d try to explain to him that it' s not necessary, and the folks who are more worried about speed than anything else are a different group of folks than the ones who consistently kill nice deer, but if he' s still unsatisfied, he should get a new bow.
krisken, which company produces these magic bows that defy gravity out to 30 yards? Don' t get me wrong, I use 1 pin out to 30 myself, but that' s because a deer' s kill zone allows a few inches either way. ALL bows drop the second they leave the bow, and even the fastest bows made have a drop that I can noticce between 0-30yds. It' s a fairy tale.

BobCo19-65

I hope there is even a larger number of archers who know that this is not true.

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HuntingBry

I think it really depends on Joe Archer himself. Some have said that he should have sufficient KE for hunting. While that may be true for some archers it may not be for others. For example, if Joe were shooting an arrow at 6 gpp at 62 pounds his arrow would be roughly 372 grains. If he has a short draw length and can only achieve say 245 fps or maybe 250 fps, which could be expected from a bow in that draw weight combined with a short draw, he would only be getting 50-55 ft. lbs. of KE. While that is certainly sufficient to hunt with I wouldn' t get very excited about it after buying a brand new bow. Not to mention it limits Joe to only using fixed blade heads and he may prefer mechanicals.

On the other hand, if Joe has a long draw length, thus indicating a larger person, he may be more comfortable shooting at 67 pounds giving him an arrow weight of right around 402 grains. A longer draw length and higher draw weight would probably put him in the 265 or possibly 270 fps range giving him between 63 to 65 ft. lbs. of KE. The heavier arrow will also carry more momentum allowing Joe to comfortably shoot whatever head he chooses. Now, 265-270 fps is not fast by today' s standards, especially if you bought a bow with an advertised IBO speed of 330+ fps, but it is more than what Joe would need for deer hunting.

If I were the first Joe, I' d be kicking myself for dropping money on a bow that wasn' t what I wanted. If I were the second Joe I might be a little disappointed in the speed but not to concerned about its effect on my ability to hunt.

Buck Magnet

This is amusing.

I keep hearing " people who are into speed don' t consistently kill nice deer" " people who are into speed don' t experience the whole hunt" .

WHAT?????????????

Since when does shooting a slower bow make you kill bigger deer??????

Since when does shooting a slower bow make you " experience the hunt" more?????

I just want to know how the bow has anything to do with this?

Last time I checked, it didn' t matter at all what weapon you take into the woods, to get a great level of satisfaction.

I went from my MT Sport of last year which was shooting at a whopping 244 f.p.s. and now, this year I am going to be getting somewhere around 290 f.p.s. out of my MightyMite. Does this mean that I am no longer going to shoot nice bucks, and that my level of satisfaction of being in the woods is going to drop?


A bow is a bow is a bow. I personally like the extra speed for many reason, exta KE, flater trajectory, and less time between the release and impact.....

Some people love their slower bows, but, I am not going to say that they are bad hunters for the fact that they like slower bows.

Like I said, if " Joe" isn' t happy with the speed of his bow, try to get him a bow that shoots the same with the extra speed. That way he is " satisfied" with his weapon, which will lead to more " confidence" in his bow, and will ultimately make it a more enjoyable time. O wait, that goes against the theory that " Since when does shooting a slower bow make you " experience the hunt" more" .

JRW

It' s called g-r-a-v-i-t-y. I don' t think even the good folks at Bow-Tech have come up with a way to negate simple physics.

I don' t mean to sound rude, so please don' t take offense, but...do you actually understand anything about projectile trajectories and gravity? This isn' t the Bug Bunny Road Runner Show where stuff hovers in mid air before gravity takes over.

JRW