So you're playing the wind...
#42
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RE: So you're playing the wind...
You are correct gentleman, let me rephrase my never!. I have never seen, or had somebody tell me they have seen, a deer circle around another deer to wind it. Obviously they SMELL each other, and from distances, and being on the ground, even against the wind, they can smell each other from a decent distance. Again, maybe they do, but I've never seen it. Has anybody actuall seen it? During the rut, a buck will come straight at a grunt, because you've fooled him into thinking another buck is after his does. He ain't going to circletowind you if he's fooled. NEVER had a doe circle me to wind me on a bleat. NEVER.They got 20 yards from the tree, and I either popped them, or they continued on their merry way, never stopping to wind me.Even the worst deer call should not cause a deer to circle you to wind you. They do this when they've heard, seen, smelled, or a combination of the three, something not natural. Your call should not be unnatural. I guess if you call the crap out of them, then they would figure something was up and try to get around you. Then again, that would be dumb, and would fit the scenario.
#43
RE: So you're playing the wind...
I have never seen, or had somebody tell me they have seen, a deer circle around another deer to wind it.
I also watched aRealtree (Monster Bucks)show, last night, and they were highlighting decoy hunts. Whether they did it form the get-go or when they got to the decoy......EVERYBUCK circled to thedownwindside of the decoy. Every.
NEVER had a doe circle me to wind me on a bleat. NEVER.
If we go into calling deer.....thinking they're not smart enough (instinctively) to circle and use their BEST defense mechanism to help keep them alive......
................we're fooling only ourselves.
#44
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RE: So you're playing the wind...
Well, I know I cannot count the number of bedded deer, bucks and does, young and old, that I've practically walked across before they got up and bolted. Wind direction BOTH in my face and at my back.They either heard, orsmelled,my coming and did notget up, period.I see a deer out of my range, I do nothing. The next day I move my stand, and guess what? Same deer, same path, dead deer.Deer calls and deer scents are so overused to make up for lack of scouting, it's not funny. Don't know about your TV show, but again, I've never seen a deer circle around to wind another deer.Can't tell how many times I've just sat there and watched them play, run each other off, or just hung out eating their way along. I don't do much field hunting though, mostly up in the hardwoods and thicket. Just my personal observations of my experience.
#45
RE: So you're playing the wind...
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You are correct gentleman, let me rephrase my never!. I have never seen, or had somebody tell me they have seen, a deer circle around another deer to wind it. Obviously they SMELL each other, and from distances, and being on the ground, even against the wind, they can smell each other from a decent distance. Again, maybe they do, but I've never seen it. Has anybody actuall seen it? During the rut, a buck will come straight at a grunt, because you've fooled him into thinking another buck is after his does. He ain't going to circletowind you if he's fooled. NEVER had a doe circle me to wind me on a bleat. NEVER.They got 20 yards from the tree, and I either popped them, or they continued on their merry way, never stopping to wind me.Even the worst deer call should not cause a deer to circle you to wind you. They do this when they've heard, seen, smelled, or a combination of the three, something not natural. Your call should not be unnatural. I guess if you call the crap out of them, then they would figure something was up and try to get around you. Then again, that would be dumb, and would fit the scenario.
You are correct gentleman, let me rephrase my never!. I have never seen, or had somebody tell me they have seen, a deer circle around another deer to wind it. Obviously they SMELL each other, and from distances, and being on the ground, even against the wind, they can smell each other from a decent distance. Again, maybe they do, but I've never seen it. Has anybody actuall seen it? During the rut, a buck will come straight at a grunt, because you've fooled him into thinking another buck is after his does. He ain't going to circletowind you if he's fooled. NEVER had a doe circle me to wind me on a bleat. NEVER.They got 20 yards from the tree, and I either popped them, or they continued on their merry way, never stopping to wind me.Even the worst deer call should not cause a deer to circle you to wind you. They do this when they've heard, seen, smelled, or a combination of the three, something not natural. Your call should not be unnatural. I guess if you call the crap out of them, then they would figure something was up and try to get around you. Then again, that would be dumb, and would fit the scenario.
#46
RE: So you're playing the wind...
I also watched a Realtree (Monster Bucks) show, last night, and they were highlighting decoy hunts. Whether they did it form the get-go or when they got to the decoy......EVERY BUCK circled to the downwind side of the decoy. Every.
#48
RE: So you're playing the wind...
Don't know about your TV show, but again, I've never seen a deer circle around to wind another deer.Can't tell how many times I've just sat there and watched them play, run each other off, or just hung out eating their way along.
When a buck is cruising between doe bedding areas......do you think he does this on the downwind side.....or ya reckon he's just gonna pick the horny ones out,by "sight"?
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RE: So you're playing the wind...
I'm thinking the bucks were cautious as hell being the decoy didn't look right, thats why they circled down wind Jeff. Not because they thought it was another deer, because they weren't sure what the hell it was.
Let me ask you something valor.....
When a buck is cruising between doe bedding areas......do you think he does this on the downwind side.....or ya reckon he's just gonna pick the horny ones out,by "sight"?
When a buck is cruising between doe bedding areas......do you think he does this on the downwind side.....or ya reckon he's just gonna pick the horny ones out,by "sight"?