early in

Which oneistheory, and which one isTested Science?

psebwhntr16

Technically both. I just find it laughable that you believe in a product that attempts to beat a whitetail's nose, but you call a product that attempts to beat a whitetail's eye's a "gimmick". I personally don't use either, but as you stated earlier, use scent free (not scent eliminating) laundry detergent and air dry my hunting clothes.I'd venture to guess that an outstanding numberof hunting clothes manufactured today do noteven need UV treatment, simply because it was taken into very serious consideration a decade ago. Imjust trying to make a point that I would be more skeptical of a product that feeds me the "scent free" story vs. a UV killer. We both know that the deers olfactory sense are stronger than its visual or even auditory senses. Im just making the point that the rods and cones in a deer's eye gives them the ability to distinguish ultraviolet colors. I don't believe in making assumptions and calling it a tested hypothesis...

Arthur P

One other point... Your clothes can only reflect the amount of UV that's in the ambient light available. It's not going to be making you look like you've got a million candlepower worth of illumination from within. What's shown on that video is just plain absurd.

psebwhntr16

I agree with that 100%. This video is obviously using scare tactics by blowing UV out of proportion. In real hunting conditions UV is much more minimal than this company claims.

jackflap

Over the years, I have run the gamut on all the scent control sprays, clothing, soaps and the detergents that are scent free without the uv brighteners.

This, in my humble opinion, falls into the category of repeated threads (one is started right now) about all the gimmicks and commercialism we fall for by always trying to get an edge.

My opinion is based on countless deer sightings from numerous tree stand locations, but fixed stands that I hunt on a repeated basis over many years. What also plays into the equation, is that many times I am in a rush to get a few hours of hunting in and I go out in my regular clothes(no camo).

Bottomline for me is this. I have certain set ups that provide good backdrop cover as well as a little something in front or to the sides of me (a tree with multiple trunks or a cluster) that I NEVER get busted in regardless of what i am wearing.

I have had other set ups that kinda leave me "hangin out there", and I invariably get busted on a regular basis regardless of what precautions I take, especially by mature deer.I have never seen a quick fix such as a different camo pattern, uv blocker etc,etc. Just find a better set up that improves my concealment and I can hunt in blue jeans and a red shirt, literally, and I will be just fine.

Buy what you want if it gives you confidence, but for myself, I choose to put more effort in finding the right set up to begin and the rest will take care of itself.

early in

Here's all I'm going tosay about this subject, because it can be argued until the cows come home. And I'm not going there. Based on my in the field observations/experiences (test's if you will) with whitetails and their behaviors, I'venever had one react negatively towards me as a result of the camo I was wearing. Especially considering I know for sure I was in their sight window! So, this PROVES that MY camo isn't giving me away via UV "glow".
As far as thescent elimination goes, I use Scent Killer (non-scented formula)becauseit's ingredients do, for a fact, HELP eliminate human odor. This much IKNOW.So I will use it. The only time I ever get busted by a deer, it's a result of noise/ movement.

Arthur P

dammit. I did it again. [:@] I need a nap. [8D] Another deleted mistake.

psebwhntr16

Fair enough. I can certainly respect your view Early in. We both made our points so I too will back out before this becomes another merry-go-roundarguement.

Arthur P

Hre's a link to a page on the EPA's website that gives the month-by-month average UV index for the country. Keep in mind that your clothes can't reflect more UV than hits them. Maybe it'll help you gage how much of a potential problem UV is for you during your hunting season.

http://www.epa.gov/SUNWISE/doc/uvimonth.html

davidmil

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