NAP Spitfire Experiences and Entry Holes
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Spitfires are one of those heads where the digital picture you show off is the exit hole, not the entry hole like in the case of the Rage. I had pretty good luck with them. One of the turkeys I shot, when reviewing the video afterwards, showed the head hitting a pretty stout little weed and turning the arrow just before it hit the bird. And one of my buddies had a bad experience hitting an antelope on a hard quartering away shot. One of the blades opened before the others and turned the arrow - causing it to follow a line between the hide and ribs. At least that was the presumption.He went back to Muzzys.
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LIke all NAP heads they sport nice quality razor sharp blades.......really nice blades on the Spitfire.
I only have one deer shot with one and it was a very short track job but yes it was probably the smallest entry wound I have seen on a any deer I've shot with mechanicals which is darn near 30 or so animals.
The retention clips are quite stiff and it takes some force to get em opened which I'm sure along with the rounded blade tips contributes to the delayed opening and incompatibility with lower energy set ups.
I would feel confident using them on game with my 70+ft lbs of KE but for consistent pass throughs I don't think I'd want to be too much below that level.
To tell you the truth, if I were to use them I would possibly remove the retention clips entirely and use a rubber band style blade retention ala Rocket to increase the speed that they open on entrance. I wish Rocket heads had blades comparable to Spitfires for sharpness that's for sure.
If you buy a pack of them make sure you take each head out of the package and check each and every blade for the force it takes to open. If any seem especially sticky make sure you try to tune it so that they all open together and with as little force as possible.
I only have one deer shot with one and it was a very short track job but yes it was probably the smallest entry wound I have seen on a any deer I've shot with mechanicals which is darn near 30 or so animals.
The retention clips are quite stiff and it takes some force to get em opened which I'm sure along with the rounded blade tips contributes to the delayed opening and incompatibility with lower energy set ups.
I would feel confident using them on game with my 70+ft lbs of KE but for consistent pass throughs I don't think I'd want to be too much below that level.
To tell you the truth, if I were to use them I would possibly remove the retention clips entirely and use a rubber band style blade retention ala Rocket to increase the speed that they open on entrance. I wish Rocket heads had blades comparable to Spitfires for sharpness that's for sure.
If you buy a pack of them make sure you take each head out of the package and check each and every blade for the force it takes to open. If any seem especially sticky make sure you try to tune it so that they all open together and with as little force as possible.
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Can't go wrong using a 100 grain spitfire. They make great exit wounds. I don't care about a big entry wound. It's the exit wound that is more important. If there is no exit wound, then the entry wound made by the spitfire is still big enough to get a good blood trail.
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I've killed 2 deer with them and they both didn't go very far. Last year I shot my 10 point with one and he left a massive blood trail. He went 35 yards. 2 years before that I made a bad shot on a doe and hit her a little far back. Even with a bad shot she didn't go 75 yards. I see no reason to switch mechanicals.
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ORIGINAL: 5 shot
I have shot 1 deer and 2 fox with spitfires. Deer had about a 1" entry hole, no exit (hit the off side shoulder) Both of the foxes and similar sized entry holes and huge exit holes. Overall I like the spitfires but I feel you need to be pushing over 60 ft/lbs of Ke to get the most out of them. Of all the mechanical heads I have tested the spittfires are one of the best in terms of quality of construction. Performance wise they are right in the middle of the pack.
I have shot 1 deer and 2 fox with spitfires. Deer had about a 1" entry hole, no exit (hit the off side shoulder) Both of the foxes and similar sized entry holes and huge exit holes. Overall I like the spitfires but I feel you need to be pushing over 60 ft/lbs of Ke to get the most out of them. Of all the mechanical heads I have tested the spittfires are one of the best in terms of quality of construction. Performance wise they are right in the middle of the pack.
I have 75# of KE with my X Force.
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As you have read, the exit hole is what people say is good on a Spitfire, not the entry hole, and the entry holeis by far the most important hole. If you don't get an exit hole you are much better off having a large entrance hole and that is what the Rage 2 blade gives you. I don't think pictures lie and the pictures of the entrance AND exit holes of a Rage is pretty impressive.
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the entry holeis by far the most important hole.
A deer can go a long way before the chest cavity fills up and it starts dropping blood out of a high hole which most tree stands shots within 20 yards will have if made correctly.
Dan
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ORIGINAL: MeanV2
If you shoot an animal from a Tree Stand the exit hole will be the lowest hole and is definitely the most important for leaving a good blood trail.
A deer can go a long way before the chest cavity fills up and it starts dropping blood out of a high hole which most tree stands shots within 20 yards will have if made correctly.
Dan
the entry holeis by far the most important hole.
A deer can go a long way before the chest cavity fills up and it starts dropping blood out of a high hole which most tree stands shots within 20 yards will have if made correctly.
Dan
Thats what I was thinking??
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ORIGINAL: annika3
As you have read, the exit hole is what people say is good on a Spitfire, not the entry hole, and the entry holeis by far the most important hole. If you don't get an exit hole you are much better off having a large entrance hole and that is what the Rage 2 blade gives you. I don't think pictures lie and the pictures of the entrance AND exit holes of a Rage is pretty impressive.
As you have read, the exit hole is what people say is good on a Spitfire, not the entry hole, and the entry holeis by far the most important hole. If you don't get an exit hole you are much better off having a large entrance hole and that is what the Rage 2 blade gives you. I don't think pictures lie and the pictures of the entrance AND exit holes of a Rage is pretty impressive.
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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
LIke all NAP heads they sport nice quality razor sharp blades.......really nice blades on the Spitfire.
I only have one deer shot with one and it was a very short track job but yes it was probably the smallest entry wound I have seen on a any deer I've shot with mechanicals which is darn near 30 or so animals.
The retention clips are quite stiff and it takes some force to get em opened which I'm sure along with the rounded blade tips contributes to the delayed opening and incompatibility with lower energy set ups.
I would feel confident using them on game with my 70+ft lbs of KE but for consistent pass throughs I don't think I'd want to be too much below that level.
To tell you the truth, if I were to use them I would possibly remove the retention clips entirely and use a rubber band style blade retention ala Rocket to increase the speed that they open on entrance. I wish Rocket heads had blades comparable to Spitfires for sharpness that's for sure.
If you buy a pack of them make sure you take each head out of the package and check each and every blade for the force it takes to open. If any seem especially sticky make sure you try to tune it so that they all open together and with as little force as possible.
LIke all NAP heads they sport nice quality razor sharp blades.......really nice blades on the Spitfire.
I only have one deer shot with one and it was a very short track job but yes it was probably the smallest entry wound I have seen on a any deer I've shot with mechanicals which is darn near 30 or so animals.
The retention clips are quite stiff and it takes some force to get em opened which I'm sure along with the rounded blade tips contributes to the delayed opening and incompatibility with lower energy set ups.
I would feel confident using them on game with my 70+ft lbs of KE but for consistent pass throughs I don't think I'd want to be too much below that level.
To tell you the truth, if I were to use them I would possibly remove the retention clips entirely and use a rubber band style blade retention ala Rocket to increase the speed that they open on entrance. I wish Rocket heads had blades comparable to Spitfires for sharpness that's for sure.
If you buy a pack of them make sure you take each head out of the package and check each and every blade for the force it takes to open. If any seem especially sticky make sure you try to tune it so that they all open together and with as little force as possible.
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I have 75# of KE. I've got 6 arrows with Slick Trick standards ready to go, fly great; but,the Spitfires offer more total cut and a 1 1/2'' exit hole should leave a lot of blood. I've used the Slick Trick once, last year. The Spitfire would be something new, I think I'll give them a try; if I don't like the result then I can fall back to the ST.
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