Speed , KE, or Momentum?
#23
RE: Speed or KE?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Have you ever chrono'd a bow at different yardages? I haven't but I'm just curious if you have.
Have you ever chrono'd a bow at different yardages? I haven't but I'm just curious if you have.
U brought up a good point about some set ups not being very well.....I got to thinking about that, and I tend to look at everything in a 30" 70# world....but that's not accurate. I would think if you are shooting low poundage, or shooting a very low end compound that you just won't get the speed out of anyway, KE is definetly the more critical factor. I was merely stating that if you can get the speed, KE will be a natural product of that. Though it wont have the same momentum, and a light arrow will slow down faster than a heavy arrow......But like you said, most shots are 20 yards or less, so how much is really needed to kill a deer?
#24
RE: Speed or KE?
ORIGINAL: racewayking
Hippos and rhinos??? I am talking Giraffes and Elephants
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
He heard there were hippos and rhinos on the loose in his woods, lol.
I like KE. I shoot better when my arrow is around 285 ish, idk why. Ill recheck my numbers, but I think I am upper 70s in KE and mid 280s in speed. My arrow is just under 500 grains, and doesnt break when shot into the concrete floor from 5 feet...trust me, ive accidentally tested it.[&:]
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Wow!!
is to be shootin 305-310fps with 87-91#KE
I like KE. I shoot better when my arrow is around 285 ish, idk why. Ill recheck my numbers, but I think I am upper 70s in KE and mid 280s in speed. My arrow is just under 500 grains, and doesnt break when shot into the concrete floor from 5 feet...trust me, ive accidentally tested it.[&:]
#25
RE: Speed or KE?
I think that a balance is best for my hunting. I like the larger room for error that a faster bow gives you, but I also certainly want enough KE to give me the exit hole that I want. My current set up shoots about 275fps and 63 ft-lbs of KE. That isn't bad for a 27.5" draw length and a 386 grain arrow I don't think. I hunt, or try to anyway, various animals and terrain throughout the year and I am not technically savy nor do I have the time or $ to change my set up each time. So far I am happy with the results and probably more importantly I am confident in my set up.
#26
RE: Speed or KE?
I've never killed a deer purely on the basis of my bow's Kinetic Energy output - and I hunted with a high KE setup for a long time.
I have, however, killed a deer purely on the basis of my bow's outrageous speed. 38 yds in 2007 - a shot that I'd have never taken at 270 fps. But at 350, even though I wasn't exactly sure of the yardage - I didn't hesitate to turn it loose.
I had two passthroughs on pretty solid bucks last year using arrows that most of you guys wouldn't say were fit for shooting chipmunks. 290 grains @ 350 fps.
Like Dan said - balance is probably the right answer for most people - but you can go extreme in either direction - and have little or no problems filling your tags.
Getting the shot is the hard part. The arrow you're using is rarely the determining factor of your ultimate success.
I have, however, killed a deer purely on the basis of my bow's outrageous speed. 38 yds in 2007 - a shot that I'd have never taken at 270 fps. But at 350, even though I wasn't exactly sure of the yardage - I didn't hesitate to turn it loose.
I had two passthroughs on pretty solid bucks last year using arrows that most of you guys wouldn't say were fit for shooting chipmunks. 290 grains @ 350 fps.
Like Dan said - balance is probably the right answer for most people - but you can go extreme in either direction - and have little or no problems filling your tags.
Getting the shot is the hard part. The arrow you're using is rarely the determining factor of your ultimate success.
#29
RE: Speed or KE?
ORIGINAL: early in
My 30" Vectrix XL 50/60,maxed at 63lbs,shoots my 501gr XX75 at 250fps (slow by todays standards), giving me 69 1/2 ft/lbs of KE. I like this for those Canadian bucks.
My 30" Vectrix XL 50/60,maxed at 63lbs,shoots my 501gr XX75 at 250fps (slow by todays standards), giving me 69 1/2 ft/lbs of KE. I like this for those Canadian bucks.