Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
05-13-2008, 11:25 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
I HATE all of the Hollywood special effects and editing that are in some shows. (DRURY Brothers) Will Primos said it best, "This ain't HOLLYWOOD"
Give me one camera over the shoulder shots and not 10 different angles of the guy drawing his bow.
Give me one camera over the shoulder shots and not 10 different angles of the guy drawing his bow.
05-13-2008, 11:37 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
I want to see videos of real life situations where it's okay to shoot some does, spikes, or whatever makes the hunter happy.I want to see the average blue/white collar hunter kill a 5 or 6 point and be happy. I would like to invite one of these so-called "Pros" to my property and see if he can kill a 130 class plus buck. If he can do it, then I will be impressed. Nothing about hunting videos impresses me. Anyone can kill the bucks these guys are taking. All you need is $$$$$$$!
05-13-2008, 11:55 AM
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
ORIGINAL: M.Hensler/PA
...and I often wonder how these shows make it into primetime slots...
...and I often wonder how these shows make it into primetime slots...
Quality of footage is #1, editing is second. The best editor in the world cannot fix bad footage. And, the flip flop of that is that the great editing of a bunch of recreated nonsense scenes doesn't make for a good show either.
I have been checking out more and more shows lately with the two new networks available on Dir TV, and I find myself shaking my head in disbelieve every night. Terrible footage, terrible editing, terrible content, and shows that are just not worth watching is what I see.
05-13-2008, 11:57 AM
#14
Fork Horn
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
I particularly enjoy the shows that have female hunters (i.e. Lee and Tiffany)....I can relate to the women hunters more; therefore it helps me to set goals that are possibly(andI meanPOSSIBLY)attainable.
"Dream Season" was a fun show to watchthis past season; interesting to see couples competing.
"Dream Season" was a fun show to watchthis past season; interesting to see couples competing.
05-13-2008, 12:36 PM
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low
There is nothing to wonder about here, really. It is very simple - they paid for that slot. What there is to wonder about, and I do every day, is how in the world some of these shows convinced their sponsor line up to pay up for advertising.
There is nothing to wonder about here, really. It is very simple - they paid for that slot. What there is to wonder about, and I do every day, is how in the world some of these shows convinced their sponsor line up to pay up for advertising.
One that's non-hunting related, but has been around FOREVER that comes to mind is that gold prospecting show...can't remember the name of it, but I know middle schoolers who could put together a better production
As far as editing is concerned, I should have been more clear. I'm not encouraging or embracing the multiple cuts, re-enacted moments, over-zealous celebrations, etc. I'm talking about intros, graphics used in the intros/credits, transitions, etc. That's what I think sets the shows apart.
05-13-2008, 12:44 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
Big deer, good (real) personalities in-front of the camera. Good stable camera work, no re-done cutaways, as few rehursed cameo's as possible. No cheesy graphics in-between hunts, and as much bowhunting as possible.
I don't like product plugs or feeling like the main storyline of a video - show - is to promote a certain product / products....
I like to watch anything that looks and feels different than the 1,001 hunting videos and shows on the market. I can watch anything if it's unique. Otherwise it's just another video / tv show.
Good, creative editing. I don't enjoy watching "cookie-cutter" type videos that are imitating what's already been done.
I don't like product plugs or feeling like the main storyline of a video - show - is to promote a certain product / products....
I like to watch anything that looks and feels different than the 1,001 hunting videos and shows on the market. I can watch anything if it's unique. Otherwise it's just another video / tv show.
Good, creative editing. I don't enjoy watching "cookie-cutter" type videos that are imitating what's already been done.
05-13-2008, 12:45 PM
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
Matt...I actually was not being sarcastic in that answer. A whole lot of folks assume that the network chooses and/or discontinues carrying shows based on quality, viewership, etc. Not so for outdoors television. It is all about going to the network with enough cash to buy the slot. Yes, there is some minimum technical requirements, and you do have to get a pilot approved, but as anyone can see by the quality of the shows on now...they are not turning many (if any) down. That is made even worse considering all networks have open slots (that turn into the infomercials).
I can tell you from personal, first hand,experience that at least some of the bigger name sponsors only look at what network(s) a given show will be showing on and based their choice on that (number of households available in) with content a second consideration if it is considered at all.
BTW...the gold shows you see are produced by the network owners.
I can tell you from personal, first hand,experience that at least some of the bigger name sponsors only look at what network(s) a given show will be showing on and based their choice on that (number of households available in) with content a second consideration if it is considered at all.
BTW...the gold shows you see are produced by the network owners.
05-13-2008, 12:52 PM
#18
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low
Matt...I actually was not being sarcastic in that answer.
Matt...I actually was not being sarcastic in that answer.
BTW...the gold shows you see are produced by the network owners.
Btw, your website is an example of what I'm talking about in terms of professionalism. I like the layout and functionality...it really says something about a company to me. Same thing with videos/shows.
05-13-2008, 01:21 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hunting Shows...What's More Impressive?
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low
Matt...I actually was not being sarcastic in that answer. A whole lot of folks assume that the network chooses and/or discontinues carrying shows based on quality, viewership, etc. Not so for outdoors television. It is all about going to the network with enough cash to buy the slot. Yes, there is some minimum technical requirements, and you do have to get a pilot approved, but as anyone can see by the quality of the shows on now...they are not turning many (if any) down. That is made even worse considering all networks have open slots (that turn into the infomercials).
I can tell you from personal, first hand,experience that at least some of the bigger name sponsors only look at what network(s) a given show will be showing on and based their choice on that (number of households available in) with content a second consideration if it is considered at all.
BTW...the gold shows you see are produced by the network owners.
Matt...I actually was not being sarcastic in that answer. A whole lot of folks assume that the network chooses and/or discontinues carrying shows based on quality, viewership, etc. Not so for outdoors television. It is all about going to the network with enough cash to buy the slot. Yes, there is some minimum technical requirements, and you do have to get a pilot approved, but as anyone can see by the quality of the shows on now...they are not turning many (if any) down. That is made even worse considering all networks have open slots (that turn into the infomercials).
I can tell you from personal, first hand,experience that at least some of the bigger name sponsors only look at what network(s) a given show will be showing on and based their choice on that (number of households available in) with content a second consideration if it is considered at all.
BTW...the gold shows you see are produced by the network owners.
bigger name sponsors you kill me Robin, thats funny stuff.