NEW61375

Good post Quik, I would have to agree. Something new/different would be refreshing. Take for example Realtree(which I don't dislike) but they are on what now Realtree Monster Bucks 47 and they still have the same exact format. Cookie cutter to the point that often it is the same farms and stands. I think they tried to change it up a bit with Road Trips and don't get me wrong they are very successful and I used to buy the new DVD's every season but now I'm not as interested. A successful formula is great but after 30 DVDduplicates it starts to be less appealing (to me anyway).

RobinAim Low

Interesting thread, at least to meit is.

There is little or no pure profit in DVD sales. Part of that is market saturation, part is the cheapness of the viewing public who would rather pirate or borrow their buddy's buddy's cousin's DVD. There are a ton of Drury wannabes out there, for sure. I guess some would call us (Aim Low) that as well, but we do what we do for reasons other than trying to be someone else. It is quite evident that anyone and everyone that gets a camera believes they can do a tv show and/or DVD's, because there is no outdoors related company that isn't just pounded for sponsorships right now. Also, it is very evident that a big majority find out how tough it can be because thereseemingly isn't a company out there that hasn't been burned by a production company that doesn't "produce" a final product as promised.

For me, I actually enjoy the hunt more now that I have a cameraman with me on all hunts. Keep in mind though, that any of my cameramen are people I would want to share time with (Friends, family, etc.) and not just a paid come along guy that I don't know. We aren't making a living doing it (or even trying to make a living), but decided to go commercial with our stuff simply to increase our outdoors opportunities.

Our stuff is real life stuff. Private land, though not big managed leases or anything. We either knocked on doors, own it, or have family that own it. We shoot animals of all sizes, including plenty of antlerless. We show it as it happens, good, bad, funny, stupid...whatever. You won't find us trying to be "teachers" though, because we don't think hunting is overly complicated and would certainly not be entertaining as an instructional type video. Besides, we don't know anything more than the average hunter. So, we just hope what we put out is entertaining to some folks, because we have a good time putting it all together. When it is all said and done, we won't be accused of showing hunting that is out of reach of the average guy, but no one is going to say they liked how we took the time to educate anyone on much.

Back to the question of is it a good time to jump in? Not sure about that. I scratch my head daily at sponsor's choices of who they sponsor. I watch stuff out there that is just terrible to watch in both quality and content. I watched an episode of one of the biggest name shows out there last night. It showed a great hunt, but man, was the quality bad. It was like watching Blair Witch, and that is normal for that show. Some of the most widely negatively discussed guys and shows somehow keep landing big name sponsors year after year. I guess we need to figure out how to BS our way intomore of the big corporations decision makers, LOL.

GMMAT

Great stuff, Robin. I hope no one thinks I was mocking the industry.....just posing some questions.

You're doing it because you love it. Kudos.

magicman54494

now there's a dvd I would pay good money for!

Bailsuk

I'm taking a Sony 8MM Handycam to Colarado on the hoping i get some great hunting footage . If i don't get the hunt on Video , at least i will have the memory of the guys i'm hunting with and surrounding countryside , mountains to look back at . You never know if your gonna get that opertunity again , so save the moment .

HuntingBry

Robin, I think the mentality you guys have is the right one. Do it real, do it right, and do it for fun. Eventually someone else with see that too. The big thing to getting noticed is your media kit, but that is way off topic.

To jump in right now as an independent production company that is going to bank on landing a TV show or selling DVDs is a very difficult proposition right now. The market is flooded and it is hard to stand out. Although just like any market that goes through a boom there is a bust that is sure to follow (look at the housing market). So, while there are a ton of shows out there right now the market saturation is becoming evident. Although there are new network channels popping up, the Pursuit Channel is supposed to debut this weekend. What I think will happen though is when that bust happens many of the lesser known and lesser quality shows will fall by the way side. The big boys and some of the better shows will be left standing with a few "cockroach" shows that will survive somehow. When that happens we should see fewer shows, but more quality in the shows and DVDs that are out there.

I think the hunting public that watches these shows are getting tired of the kill shows. That is kill after kill after kill. They want some stories, some entertainment, and most of all something that they can relate to. The groups that understand that and can put that together will be the survivors.

bawanajim

You will want the autographed collectors edition. [:-]


Guaranteed money doubling garage sale fodder.You'll be the envy of your block.

OKbowhunter20

We film most of our hunts...but its not for any commercial profit of ours....we make copies of them, for ourselves and break em out once in a while and watch them. Its always good for a good laugh

Its fun to see what we did and how we did things. There is always something where we are like "What were we thinking"

It also fun to see how we "used to" do things, and how we hunt now....watching some of our old hunts, its always a good time, and we get to make fun of each other

rybohunter

I would put it in the highly popular category. Long ways to go before being "old hat".

magicman54494