Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
04-07-2008, 01:52 PM
#31
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Another reason to plant your own field with the proper forage.
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Deffinately can have an effect!
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Let me ask another question....
Could crop rotation have anything to do with this phenomenon?
Let me ask another question....
Could crop rotation have anything to do with this phenomenon?
04-07-2008, 02:00 PM
#34
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
ORIGINAL: GregH
You know you're a Master.......... [:-]
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
I'm a baiter, just not very good at it ..............yet.[
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I'm a baiter, just not very good at it ..............yet.[
]
But baiting at that levelaways seemsjust out of hand.[8D]
04-07-2008, 02:01 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I agree that a lot of these little guys have ever expanding home ranges.....but it would make sense if they were replaced with other deer of the same age structure,........wouldn't it?
If this is the case (they disperse and have larger ranges than their older counterparts).....doesn't it make passing on them futile? I mean....I have no desire to kill these juveniles.....but I can see where people might take a different approach if they thought they were going to disperse from their properties, anyways.
Interesting.....ya gotta admit.....to not even see ONE of them.
Alot of these younger bucks take to new areas the following year I believe.
If this is the case (they disperse and have larger ranges than their older counterparts).....doesn't it make passing on them futile? I mean....I have no desire to kill these juveniles.....but I can see where people might take a different approach if they thought they were going to disperse from their properties, anyways.
Interesting.....ya gotta admit.....to not even see ONE of them.
04-07-2008, 02:02 PM
#36
Dominant Buck
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
The bull was there until you shot him, therefore he pushed most of them out of the area with his dominance, and made them go nocturnal. Now that the bull is gone I would imagine one of them will step up to take his role of dominance.
04-07-2008, 02:04 PM
#37
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
Crop rotation and harvest time frame have a dramatic effect in Eastern NC and WV. In NC, they pick the corn in August/Sept and it has little effect on the deer hunting thereafter. The beans are picked later and they create a major food source for deer during the NC season.Another example, if the corn is unpicked in WV, you can bet many of the deer are holed-up in the cornfields. If it is picked just a day or two before season, the hunting is improved as the deer disperse.
Jeff - If crop rotation is the answer toyour mystery, you should be able to sort through by re-examining field usage over the preceding years. Your harvest times and subsequent effects might be a lot different than mine. Do you have dog hunting there? Thoseclowns cancompletely disrupt an area ... pretty quick too.
Jeff - If crop rotation is the answer toyour mystery, you should be able to sort through by re-examining field usage over the preceding years. Your harvest times and subsequent effects might be a lot different than mine. Do you have dog hunting there? Thoseclowns cancompletely disrupt an area ... pretty quick too.
04-07-2008, 02:07 PM
#38
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
The list of things in life I've mastered is a long one.
But baiting at that levelaways seemsjust out of hand.[8D]
ORIGINAL: GregH
You know you're a Master.......... [:-]
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
I'm a baiter, just not very good at it ..............yet.[]
I'm a baiter, just not very good at it ..............yet.[
]
But baiting at that levelaways seemsjust out of hand.[8D]
04-07-2008, 02:08 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
ORIGINAL: Oneshot7
The bull was there until you shot him, therefore he pushed most of them out of the area with his dominance, and made them go nocturnal. Now that the bull is gone I would imagine one of them will step up to take his role of dominance.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I agree that a lot of these little guys have ever expanding home ranges.....but it would make sense if they were replaced with other deer of the same age structure,........wouldn't it?
If this is the case (they disperse and have larger ranges than their older counterparts).....doesn't it make passing on them futile? I mean....I have no desire to kill these juveniles.....but I can see where people might take a different approach if they thought they were going to disperse from their properties, anyways.
Interesting.....ya gotta admit.....to not even see ONE of them.
Alot of these younger bucks take to new areas the following year I believe.
If this is the case (they disperse and have larger ranges than their older counterparts).....doesn't it make passing on them futile? I mean....I have no desire to kill these juveniles.....but I can see where people might take a different approach if they thought they were going to disperse from their properties, anyways.
Interesting.....ya gotta admit.....to not even see ONE of them.
04-07-2008, 02:10 PM
#40
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would it concern you if you were passing on bucks?
Jeff I would agree that your bucks that you killed so far were the dominant bucks for your area and probably have pushed the smaller bucks out. But I also think that from what you have discribe you hunt in a urban setting and I think that urban buckschange their travel patterns as their surroundings change like new sub divisions and new construction comes in. JMO