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Old 03-31-2008, 05:03 PM
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Been around hunting/baiting bears for 12 years, no problems with them, yet.

Last year I had a sow and two cubs come in to the bait. A coon snapped a branch and that sent one of the cubs half way up my tree, that sort of freaked me out. Getting in between a sow and cubs, imo, is when I get a little freaked out.

I hunt with my bow only. This year I'll be doing it out of a double bull, that should be a rush and a half. Two guys, a camera, and a bow[8D]


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Old 03-31-2008, 05:07 PM
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I agree for the most part black bears are no bother at all... But I have for whatever reason have pissed off a few sows with cubs in the spring time...while shed hunting and once a sow with cubs while elk hunting....I was glad I had a 44 mag with me to shoot in the air and had too on all three occasions.. I may be the ODD one here but all three of those sows came towards me, clicked their jaws and one stood on her hind feet ... Like I said though, I was shed hunting and not paying attention to the critters around me and had my eyes on the forest floor.. when pow... I was right in the middle of them ...

I have never had a boar bother me, I did have one stop and sniff the air beforeand hold his ground but he didnt bother me...and the ones that I have hunted, stalked and killed, They have always been eager to get away from me, especiallywhen the wind changes and they catch it... they are gone...


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Old 03-31-2008, 07:46 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that Black Bears kill more people than Grizz,Brown, Polar. Does anyone know if this is true?? Most of the bears I see in Pa run like scared rabbits or just pay you no-mind. I did have one once flip my cutout log feeder that weights about 200lb. He swated it with his paw and it flew about 10ft like a rag Doll.I was trying to take his picture from about 15 yards. Not to smart on my part, but Jack Old #7 played a part in my dission to get so close to a 500lb+ Bear. He was pissed and my shorts had a stain in them after which I ran like a scared rabbit. That was a major I TOLD YOU SO from the Wife[:@]

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Old 03-31-2008, 07:51 PM
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Personally I don't think you have anything to worry about. I've been involved with bear hunting for 30+ years, been hunting them for 20 years and not once have I had a bear get too hostile with me. There a curious animal, there vision is terrible. There nose makes up for it though. In most cases there just as afraid of you (if not more) then you are afraid of them. If it bothers you that bad pick up some pepper spray, that works well for these black bear.
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:32 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that Black Bears kill more people than Grizz,Brown, Polar. Does anyone know if this is true?? Most of the bears I see in Pa run like scared rabbits or just pay you no-mind. I did have one once flip my cutout log feeder that weights about 200lb. He swated it with his paw and it flew about 10ft like a rag Doll.I was trying to take his picture from about 15 yards. Not to smart on my part, but Jack Old #7 played a part in my dission to get so close to a 500lb+ Bear. He was pissed and my shorts had a stain in them after which I ran like a scared rabbit. That was a major I TOLD YOU SO from the Wife[:@]

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There are allot more black bear attacks on humans then the other species of bear. Reason being there is allot more of them around, that is the only reason why!!
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I remember reading somewhere that Black Bears kill more people than Grizz,Brown, Polar. Does anyone know if this is true?? Most of the bears I see in Pa run like scared rabbits or just pay you no-mind. I did have one once flip my cutout log feeder that weights about 200lb. He swated it with his paw and it flew about 10ft like a rag Doll.I was trying to take his picture from about 15 yards. Not to smart on my part, but Jack Old #7 played a part in my dission to get so close to a 500lb+ Bear. He was pissed and my shorts had a stain in them after which I ran like a scared rabbit. That was a major I TOLD YOU SO from the Wife[:@]

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There are allot more black bear attacks on humans then the other species of bear. Reason being there is allot more of them around, that is the only reason why!!
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:54 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that Black Bears kill more people than Grizz,Brown, Polar. Does anyone know if this is true?? Most of the bears I see in Pa run like scared rabbits or just pay you no-mind. I did have one once flip my cutout log feeder that weights about 200lb. He swated it with his paw and it flew about 10ft like a rag Doll.I was trying to take his picture from about 15 yards. Not to smart on my part, but Jack Old #7 played a part in my dission to get so close to a 500lb+ Bear. He was pissed and my shorts had a stain in them after which I ran like a scared rabbit. That was a major I TOLD YOU SO from the Wife[:@]

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There are allot more black bear attacks on humans then the other species of bear. Reason being there is allot more of them around, that is the only reason why!!
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Yea but what do you guys know about black bears? Sounds to me like they are just agressive animals.
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:33 PM
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If you're really worried about it and you can't pack iron then pack along some bear spray. I agree with most here in that you probably will never have an issue with a bear....but it does happen. It happened to me and it happened to my father many many moons ago.

I told this story here some time ago so I'll just cut and paste a part ofwhat I wrote.....

Way back before I was born......it was the late spring of 1963 my father was in the far north woods of Wisconsin, at night (no lights in the camp) he had shot a snapping turtle earlier in the day with a Ruger .22mag Single Six and hadthe turtleoutside to dry out the shell. The guts were in a garbage can right below it (the shell was on the roof of a low garage) and some of the blood was dripping onto the cans.

Well he was making his way up a hill to his cabin (approx 75yds away) with the Ruger slung over his shoulder. As he rounded the corner of the garagehe saw two sets of eyes in the moon light and knew right there and then what it was. Two cubs were licking the blood off of the can and trying to get into it for the turtle end trails.

No sooner did this all register when he heard the unmistakable sound of a bear running at him her claws digging at the gravel as she approached at full speed! He started to back up toward the lake and reached for his only chance, his sixgun on his hip..........it wasn't there, it was slung over his shoulder! As he fumbled to release the leather strap from the hammer to free the pistol the bear was close enough to smell. Instinctively he pulled the pistol pointed it in the direction of the sound and smell, eared back the hammer on the Rugerand pulled the trigger.

BLAM! the muzzle flash showed the eerie sight of a huge sow closing in on him. The bear rolled in font of him only to get to her feet and continue her charge....BLAM!.....BLAM! he fired again and again, the bear rolledbut again got up. By this time he found himself sliding down the steep bank down to the waters edge. His back bumped up against a big tree that was growing in the middle of the bank, as he slid to the water side of the trunk he heard the bear slam into the top side. As the bear started to reach around the tree with her massive razor sharp claws hell bent on the destruction of the person causing her pain, My father reached around the other side of thetree, put the pistol to the bear and BLAM! let another.22mag round intoher.

Knowing he was running out of real estate (and ammo)he knew what he had to do. He dug the handle of the pistol into the ground and pulled himself back up the bank not knowing if the bear was right on his heels or dead. As he got to the top and started to make his way to the cabin to retrieve his 44-40 rifle, a person with a flash light runs up to him to ask what was going on. It was a truck driver who earlier in the dayhad brought in food and supplies for the upcoming camping season for all of the kids who would be arriving at the camp along with the rest of the staff.

Explaining what happened my father asked the driver to get into his truck and aim the lights onto the tree in the middle of the bank. The driver did and upon his return from the cabin (with his rifle) found that the mother had rounded up the cubs and treed them above her. She was at about 15ft up and the cubs slightly higher.

Knowing what he had to do a well placed shot sent the bear tumbling down the tree and down the bank below the lights of the truck into the pitch black darkness of the waters edge. Not wanting any more excitement for the evening and very sure a well placed shot was made it was decided to "investigate" in the morning.

After first light sure enough the bear was right where she fell by the waters edge.After a few calls to the game warden the whole issue was figured out with no charges or citations issued. It was deemed (as it should have been) an act of self defense.

The cubs hung around camp for a few days then wandered of to fend for themselves.
This encounter no doubt was due to the cubs but it was the last thing my father expected. Some years later he had to shoot another bear that had been routinely entering the camp.

Again I have pasted what I wrote earlier:

I forgot to add that my father only ended up needing 20 stitches in his left leg and 4 on his right arm. His clothes were ripped and other minor cuts and scrapes but all in all he came through the ordeal fairly unscathed. You can still see the scars to this day on his leg.

The bear was taken by the warden where it was weighed and measured. I can't remember the exact numbers but I know she was over 6ft and weighed in at close to 400lbs which is very big for a Wisconsin sow bear especially in the late spring/early summer.

Years later (mid 70's) he again had to kill a rogue bear that was coming into camp. This bear was very big and very old. He had scared it off on two other occasions with a shot gun but the bear kept returning. This time was different because it was during the camping season and the camp was full of kids. He phoned the warden (same one) to inform him of the situation.The warden told my dad that they would send someone out to dispatch the bear but if came into camp before they could get to it, it was ok to kill the bear.

Well the bear came back later that day at just about dusk, I remember like it was yesterday my father running out toward the bear with a shotgun in one hand and a Ruger .44mag flattop strapped to his hip. Our dog (German Shepherd) was going crazy trying to get at the bear. He (the dog) had treed the bear the day before only to have the bear come down the tree and attack the dog but the Shepherd was too fast for the bear and was able to tree him again. (the dog weighed in at about 135lbs....big shepherd) My oldest brother was holding back the dog at my father's request while we all stood back and watched what unfolded.

There's my father standing about 25yds away from this bear who is growling and popping his jaws at him, circling to his left the bear was posturing for an attack! My father raised the shotgun and fired over the bears head in an effort to scare him offlike he had in the days preceding........nothing, again he shot only this time right in front of the bear causing dirt and rocks to fly up into the bears face again nothing, the bears resolve was unshakable.

The bear had decided to make this afternoon his last stand. He started toward my father, my dad,being a hunter himself and having served in the army as a front line infantryman for three years in Korea was no stranger to danger.Having faced much more difficult and life threatening moments in the war and from his first bear attack, he was as calm as could be. He dropped the shotgun and drew his pistol. This time though his weapon was very much up to the task at hand, and with one shot he dropped the bear where he stood.

I was in awe.......
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:08 PM
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they aren't as scary anymore after I hunted them, but I did see a cub on a recent elk hunt and that was scary, I dont want to be between mama bear and cub.....so bear spray would definitely be a consideration, or a sidearm, or a bow/rifle. Don't forget your backups.......ie knife.....2nd backup......these pythons aka biceps/fists.


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Old 04-01-2008, 05:00 AM
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I carry my .44mag taurus with me everytime im in the woods wether it be for a walk or bow hunting. Ive been chased2 times now and charged onceby black bears and theres no worse feeling than thinking your life is going to end. If it comes to matter of life or death, I know I have the upper hand on any black bear that decides he/she wants a snack.
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