Teach me FOC
03-11-2008, 11:28 AM
#41
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Teach me FOC
Think of it like this: If the front is heavy it is basically pulling the rear along with it, especially through flesh, etc. There is no "battle" to lead, so to speak. If the rear is just as heavy, or heavier to use an extreme example, when the front encounters resistance, flesh, then the rear will try to "swing out" and proceed on its own. Then you do not have the maximum energy directed at the tip/front, it is now being spread out across the shaft, thus decreasing penetration potential.
That is my hacked up description in trying to regurgitate what I have read. My high FOC arrows punch through my targets all of the time and my lower FOC arrows are less likely to. So, even my experience has shown me that high FOC out penetrates low FOC.
That is my hacked up description in trying to regurgitate what I have read. My high FOC arrows punch through my targets all of the time and my lower FOC arrows are less likely to. So, even my experience has shown me that high FOC out penetrates low FOC.
03-11-2008, 11:29 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
With a higher FOC the arrow is going to be able to take the straighest path through the animal more easily than a lower FOC which would deflect much easier, losing energy along the way.
And I can promise you an arrow with a FOC of 1 or less WILL fly straight.
03-11-2008, 11:29 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
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Why would it be imortant? Doesn't KE compute off total arrow weight?
If your bow is tuned....and your arrow is flying true.....why would it make a difference what your 500 gr arrow's FOC was?
Just curious.
Why would it be imortant? Doesn't KE compute off total arrow weight?
If your bow is tuned....and your arrow is flying true.....why would it make a difference what your 500 gr arrow's FOC was?
Just curious.
03-11-2008, 11:30 AM
#44
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RE: Teach me FOC
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With a higher FOC the arrow is going to be able to take the straighest path through the animal more easily than a lower FOC which would deflect much easier, losing energy along the way.
The KE won't be any different but the loss of KE as it goes through the animal would drop off much faster.
That's just a thought that popped in my head, I don't know if it would actualy be true.
With a higher FOC the arrow is going to be able to take the straighest path through the animal more easily than a lower FOC which would deflect much easier, losing energy along the way.
The KE won't be any different but the loss of KE as it goes through the animal would drop off much faster.
That's just a thought that popped in my head, I don't know if it would actualy be true.
03-11-2008, 11:30 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
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That's why I said "If your bow is tuned".
And I can promise you an arrow with a FOC of 1 or less WILL fly straight.
With a higher FOC the arrow is going to be able to take the straighest path through the animal more easily than a lower FOC which would deflect much easier, losing energy along the way.
And I can promise you an arrow with a FOC of 1 or less WILL fly straight.
03-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
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That's why I said "If your bow is tuned".
And I can promise you an arrow with a FOC of 1 or less WILL fly straight.
With a higher FOC the arrow is going to be able to take the straighest path through the animal more easily than a lower FOC which would deflect much easier, losing energy along the way.
And I can promise you an arrow with a FOC of 1 or less WILL fly straight.
03-11-2008, 11:35 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
You're still talking about an elongated shpere (rod)that weighs 500gr.
Period.
It's no more being "pulled" by the front end than it is "pushed" by the back end or the bowstring.
If it's flying true it is an elongated sphere (rod)that weighs what it weighs (KE-wise).
That's my logic......and it could be wrong.
Period.
It's no more being "pulled" by the front end than it is "pushed" by the back end or the bowstring.
If it's flying true it is an elongated sphere (rod)that weighs what it weighs (KE-wise).
That's my logic......and it could be wrong.
03-11-2008, 11:36 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
and if my memory serves me right a high FOC arrow will carry much more momentum than a normal or low FOC arrow. Look at it this way. there is a reason Trad hunter like the heavy arrow setups with heavy heads, it allows them the most penetration with the lower speeds of those bows. and IMHO if I put that type of setup on my compound shooting much higher speeds its gonna feel like a freight train when it hits something possibly casuing some shock (I know it may be very minimal but its got to help some) to go with the cutting the blades of the broadhead will do.
03-11-2008, 11:41 AM
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RE: Teach me FOC
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You're still talking about an elongated shpere (rod)that weighs 500gr.
Period.
It's no more being "pulled" by the front end than it is "pushed" by the back end or the bowstring.
If it's flying true it is an elongated sphere (rod)that weighs what it weighs (KE-wise).
That's my logic......and it could be wrong.
You're still talking about an elongated shpere (rod)that weighs 500gr.
Period.
It's no more being "pulled" by the front end than it is "pushed" by the back end or the bowstring.
If it's flying true it is an elongated sphere (rod)that weighs what it weighs (KE-wise).
That's my logic......and it could be wrong.
Where does encountering asolid objectshow up in the formula for KE?