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#21
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
ORIGINAL: HuntingBry
Robin and others who are experienced,
I am in a similar boat as DropTine, but haven't bought any gear yet. What do you recommend as a good camera and accessoriesto start out with that will provide production quality for a budget conscious person.
I know I will have to drop some dough, but don't want to sell the bakery if you know what I mean.
Robin and others who are experienced,
I am in a similar boat as DropTine, but haven't bought any gear yet. What do you recommend as a good camera and accessoriesto start out with that will provide production quality for a budget conscious person.
I know I will have to drop some dough, but don't want to sell the bakery if you know what I mean.
A lot of guys are getting Canon GL2s, but in my opinion, to get a GL2 set up for quality footage you are going to end up spending as much if not more than the cost of the PD170 (Audio adapters, etc.)
Also, the quality is definately noticable between the two.
The only down side to the PD170 is the 12X zoom as opposed to the canon's 20X
They are both good cameras to get started with!
#22
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
PD170 is definitely a good one to start with, good call Mike. I completely agree about the GL2. They are attractive because of price at the start, but you need alot of accessories to get up to snuff with one.
As for the mics, you will definitely run both out in the woods. Ambient mic for nature sounds, lavs for voice. I usually have the ambient mic in my ear, and the lav mic earphone just hanging until interviews, cut-aways etc. With both in all the time, really hard to tell where the sounds are coming from (grunting, leaves crunching) Sounds liek they are coming from the center of your brain with both ear phones in!
As for the mics, you will definitely run both out in the woods. Ambient mic for nature sounds, lavs for voice. I usually have the ambient mic in my ear, and the lav mic earphone just hanging until interviews, cut-aways etc. With both in all the time, really hard to tell where the sounds are coming from (grunting, leaves crunching) Sounds liek they are coming from the center of your brain with both ear phones in!
#23
Join Date: May 2005
Location: StL, MO
Posts: 745
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
Agree with that. A GL-2 is going to get you going...we did two video's and quite a bit of our tv with one, and still have it. A used cam like a GL-2, an XL-1S, or Sony PD-170 or vx-2100 would be the ones I would look at. The Sony's def have a leg up on the low light capabilities. We just picked up an XL-1S used for a decent price used and are very happy with it. That is what the hog clip I posted up in this section was filmed with.
#24
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
ORIGINAL: YooperMike
With both in all the time, really hard to tell where the sounds are coming from (grunting, leaves crunching) Sounds liek they are coming from the center of your brain with both ear phones in!
With both in all the time, really hard to tell where the sounds are coming from (grunting, leaves crunching) Sounds liek they are coming from the center of your brain with both ear phones in!
Also, try turning on a GL2 with a deer right below you [X(](rreeeaaaaarrr reeeeahhh!) The only thing youll be getting footage of is a white tail! [:-]
#25
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
I may be able to get a local deal on the Canon XL-1S fully rigged for shooting hunts. The only thing I think I would need is the wireless mics. I'm also going to check out the Sonys.
Thanks for the help. Any other suggestions for me or Drop are greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the help. Any other suggestions for me or Drop are greatly appreciated.
#26
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
ORIGINAL: MichaelHunsucker
Also, try turning on a GL2 with a deer right below you [X(](rreeeaaaaarrr reeeeahhh!) The only thing youll be getting footage of is a white tail! [:-]
Also, try turning on a GL2 with a deer right below you [X(](rreeeaaaaarrr reeeeahhh!) The only thing youll be getting footage of is a white tail! [:-]
Most people who dont do it or are just starting are fooled into thinking its as easy as just hanging an extra treestand on your setups and getting a decent camera. I know from experience it isnt. Good thing was my friend was the one who actually bought the GL2[X(]. We do still plan on filming turkey hunts. Filming on the ground is much much easier than in a treestand. So long as we stay hidden or use ground blinds, we should fair well on the turkey.
#27
Join Date: May 2005
Location: StL, MO
Posts: 745
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
We have never spooked an animal turning our GL2 on but it is noisy. IMO, you are going to do a better job with a cam if you don't try to use the lcd screen. Stick with the view finder.
#29
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low
We have never spooked an animal turning our GL2 on but it is noisy. IMO, you are going to do a better job with a cam if you don't try to use the lcd screen. Stick with the view finder.
We have never spooked an animal turning our GL2 on but it is noisy. IMO, you are going to do a better job with a cam if you don't try to use the lcd screen. Stick with the view finder.
#30
RE: Any CAMERMEN..Need advice...please.
If you ever plan on going solo into the woods an LCD screen is a must and the bigger the better...............Also in my opinion shoulder mount cameras like the XL1s are not good to learn with, they are bulky and need heavy duty camera arms/tripods to support thier weight, also i don't believe the XL1s gives any better video quality than the PD170 (I think the pd is just as good and kicks the XL1s butt in lowlight). If I were just starting out I would stick with a smaller pro-sumer with a large LCD screen and XLR inputs for great audio.
I shoot the Panasonic DVX100p and you cannot beat the picture quality, manual controls are easy to use and it has a big LCD (3.5") the only downside is the optical zoom (10x) but for bowhunting it works just fine.
I shoot the Panasonic DVX100p and you cannot beat the picture quality, manual controls are easy to use and it has a big LCD (3.5") the only downside is the optical zoom (10x) but for bowhunting it works just fine.