A ? for those using mechanical heads.
#11
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
Nope not me, that would be hard to hold your tounge.
ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag
I am not putting them down, but want to ask a question for those who use them. My motive for asking this is a good friend of my son who has been very successful bowhunting since he was young made a comment to me during a 3D shoot last year that bothered the hell out of me and I did the best I could at the time keep from tearing histoungue out. The guy uses Grim Reaper broadheads and while extolling the virtues of using them said he aims for the middle of ther body or guts on a deer if need be on a deer he wants to shootbecause of the way the head cuts.
Anyway for the question, anybody been tempted to takesuch shots on a deer simplybecause of the larger cutting diameter that some mech heads possess or advertise? I won't demonize anybody who says they do, I am just curious.
I am not putting them down, but want to ask a question for those who use them. My motive for asking this is a good friend of my son who has been very successful bowhunting since he was young made a comment to me during a 3D shoot last year that bothered the hell out of me and I did the best I could at the time keep from tearing histoungue out. The guy uses Grim Reaper broadheads and while extolling the virtues of using them said he aims for the middle of ther body or guts on a deer if need be on a deer he wants to shootbecause of the way the head cuts.
Anyway for the question, anybody been tempted to takesuch shots on a deer simplybecause of the larger cutting diameter that some mech heads possess or advertise? I won't demonize anybody who says they do, I am just curious.
#12
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker
Im getting me some Rambo points this year, and am literally going to blow the fescue out of them!
Im getting me some Rambo points this year, and am literally going to blow the fescue out of them!
Dan
#13
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I buy that 100%
The second comment.......I disagree. I don't know anyone with that mindset. I may be wrong. I know I saw a TV show where a hunter touted the Rage as a great "bad shot BH". I think he did the Rage company and bowhunting, in general, a HUGE disservice with that irresponsible comment.
I'd think most on this board are knowledgeable enough to know better than this, but I would say there are primarily 2 reasons the AVERAGE (not guys that are serious) bowhunter leans to mechanicals.
1. They fly like a field point and most guys can't get that from their fixed blades.
1. They fly like a field point and most guys can't get that from their fixed blades.
The second comment.......I disagree. I don't know anyone with that mindset. I may be wrong. I know I saw a TV show where a hunter touted the Rage as a great "bad shot BH". I think he did the Rage company and bowhunting, in general, a HUGE disservice with that irresponsible comment.
#14
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
No but it is nice to know that the extra cut is there if things DO go wrong......you are more likely to make a marginal hit BACK than you are in the large bone of the shoulder.
#15
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
How do you come to that conclusion?
No but it is nice to know that the extra cut is there if things DO go wrong......you are more likely to make a marginal hit BACK than you are in the large bone of the shoulder.
However everything from the diaphragm back is a vital organ.... liver, stomach, kidneys etc.
Are you seriously going to try and argue that the shoulder is more of a consideration at about the size of your hand vs EVERYTHING that lies from the diaphragm to the hindquarters? (including possibly the femoral artery IN the hindquarters).
The shoulder is the exception if you are taking responsible shots and is a much smaller surface area when compared to everything behind the lungs.
We shade away from the shoulder when we aim for a reason......
In 40+ deer shot with a bow I have never hit the shoulder blade yet.......I have made a couple not so stellar hits the other way, liver, liver/guts, guts, liver/1 lung by just pulling a little too far off the ribs or having an animaltake a stepforward at the shot.
They generally don't take a step backwards..........they move forward at all and the arrow goes BACK, not front.
#16
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
Are you seriously going to try and argue that the shoulder is more of a consideration at about the size of your hand vs EVERYTHING that lies from the diaphragm to the hindquarters? (including possibly the femoral artery IN the hindquarters).
I see about an equal amount of lost deer threads from people hitting shoulder as they do hitting back.
Little touchy?
in the 75 -85 I've killed with a bow I lost one with a shoulder hit(mini blaster)but have never lost one hitting it in the liver or the gut or a one lunger.
They generally don't take a step backwards..........
#17
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
Did I argue anything? Asked a simple question, sorry if it should have been so obvious.
I see about an equal amount of lost deer threads from people hitting shoulder as they do hitting back.
Little touchy?
in the 75 -85 I've killed with a bow I lost one with a shoulder hit(mini blaster)but have never lost one hitting it in the liver or the gut or a one lunger.
I see about an equal amount of lost deer threads from people hitting shoulder as they do hitting back.
Little touchy?
in the 75 -85 I've killed with a bow I lost one with a shoulder hit(mini blaster)but have never lost one hitting it in the liver or the gut or a one lunger.
Seriously how can it be coincidence that between you and I we have something like 125 deer to our creditand 1....just one lost animal due to a shoulder hit and neither has lost one hitting them farther back. I've never even hit a single deer in the shoulder blade myself.
Who are all these shoulder shooting people? LOL
Just within our sample alone there is evidence enough thata person'sfocus in choosing a broadhead should be shooting the biggest cutting diameterto the point ofstill being assured of excellent penetration. The focus should be on damaging as much tissue as we can with only a slight consideration at best given to how they will perform on bone. Like I said the shoulder is the exception. If you are going to plan for something bad at least in mine and your experience which is a lot of dead animals..........plan for a soft tissue hit and shoot a head that will take out as much as possible.
If that means an 1 1/8" fixed head for one guy then that's what he should shoot, if it means a 2" cut 4 blade mech for me because I have oodles of energy to spare then that's what I should shoot.
The only higher priorities are making sure they are sharp and coming from a tuned set up.
#18
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
Noexcuse for losing a Deer hit too far back unless you don't know how to handle the situation or possibly rain. When people lose Deer they shot too far back it's because they did the wrong thing not because of what Broadhead they did or did not shoot
Dan
Dan
#19
RE: A ? for those using mechanical heads.
The size of my broadhead will never influence which shots I do or do not take.
But I sure like the damage done by the Rage 2 Blade. It is nice to have the extra cutting dia on those shots that don't end up exactly where you wanted it.
Before I shot the Rage I used the Rocket Hammerhead, a 2" 3 blade head. They were devestating also. But the Rage is a much better built head, and I have been able to reuse it after shooting my deer.
But I sure like the damage done by the Rage 2 Blade. It is nice to have the extra cutting dia on those shots that don't end up exactly where you wanted it.
Before I shot the Rage I used the Rocket Hammerhead, a 2" 3 blade head. They were devestating also. But the Rage is a much better built head, and I have been able to reuse it after shooting my deer.