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02-15-2008, 08:45 AM
#31
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
IMO one needs to be shooting over 60 Ft.lb with the Rage. I help a guy who was shooting 48 ft.lbs with a rage. There was not a pentration issue IMO, there was a setup issue.
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
02-15-2008, 08:54 AM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: IA/WI/IL
Posts: 1,482
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: Germ
IMO one needs to be shooting over 60 Ft.lb with the Rage. I help a guy who was shooting 48 ft.lbs with a rage. There was not a pentration issue IMO, there was a setup issue.
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
IMO one needs to be shooting over 60 Ft.lb with the Rage. I help a guy who was shooting 48 ft.lbs with a rage. There was not a pentration issue IMO, there was a setup issue.
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
02-15-2008, 08:56 AM
#33
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 247
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: Germ
IMO one needs to be shooting over 60 Ft.lb with the Rage. I help a guy who was shooting 48 ft.lbs with a rage. There was not a pentration issue IMO, there was a setup issue.
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
IMO one needs to be shooting over 60 Ft.lb with the Rage. I help a guy who was shooting 48 ft.lbs with a rage. There was not a pentration issue IMO, there was a setup issue.
99% of lost deer have to do with two things Poorly setup bows and tracking
99% of the blame is always the BH, IMO
02-15-2008, 09:09 AM
#34
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
What I am saying one must understand equipment they are shooting. I truly believe most who bowhunt do not, and a lot of guys who setup bows do not. Gentleman the people in HNI are in the minorty of BH, it's sad but true.
I work the BH section at Cabelas a few times in Sept when they were busy. I heard stories about every head we sold. They all failed on perfect shots
Hell last year I was picking up some more Montecs, and a guy told me they were Junk[8D] When I informed him I am 16 for 16 with this head.
I got a blank stare
This year for Turkeys I will have the rage, for deer Montecs again, but I am also trying for a 600+ Grain arrow[8D]
I work the BH section at Cabelas a few times in Sept when they were busy. I heard stories about every head we sold. They all failed on perfect shots
Hell last year I was picking up some more Montecs, and a guy told me they were Junk[8D] When I informed him I am 16 for 16 with this head.
I got a blank stare
This year for Turkeys I will have the rage, for deer Montecs again
, but I am also trying for a 600+ Grain arrow[8D]
02-15-2008, 09:42 AM
#35
Join Date: Mar 2004
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
Germ, you are 100% right, no matter how much it hurts to say it....
Working in the pro shop the last couple years has really taught me how........silly.....most people are. I can't tell you how many bows were brought in 1 WEEK before season w/ a busted string.....Story is the same....I put the bow away after last season, opened up the case yesterday, this is what I found. Oh yeah, the broadhead is the reason you wounded and lost that deer, no question.....
Working in the pro shop the last couple years has really taught me how........silly.....most people are. I can't tell you how many bows were brought in 1 WEEK before season w/ a busted string.....Story is the same....I put the bow away after last season, opened up the case yesterday, this is what I found. Oh yeah, the broadhead is the reason you wounded and lost that deer, no question.....
02-15-2008, 10:32 AM
#36
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
I don't use mechanicals so no matter to me. Yet its strange but true how marketing can get a product up and running strong. I am betting strongly if the Rage heads were marketed under Rocky Mtn. they would not be used nearly as much.
02-15-2008, 11:25 AM
#38
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: DeerStalker80
You have to wacth what site is testing the head mine are completely unbiased and I dont get paid by anyone I spend the money on the heads and I tested them. Those site could be getting paid to report these findings..........
You have to wacth what site is testing the head mine are completely unbiased and I dont get paid by anyone I spend the money on the heads and I tested them. Those site could be getting paid to report these findings..........
PersonallyI don't care. I just commented on the heads design based on what the criteria I believe is and is not good. The head reasembles a nail. A nail is made to grip when it enters, not pass through.
I like heads that start cutting as soon as the tip enters an with a cutting edge of around 20 degrees.
02-15-2008, 11:44 AM
#39
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: Germ
What I am saying one must understand equipment they are shooting. I truly believe most who bowhunt do not, and a lot of guys who setup bows do not. Gentleman the people in HNI are in the minorty of BH, it's sad but true.
I work the BH section at Cabelas a few times in Sept when they were busy. I heard stories about every head we sold. They all failed on perfect shots
Hell last year I was picking up some more Montecs, and a guy told me they were Junk[8D] When I informed him I am 16 for 16 with this head.
I got a blank stare
This year for Turkeys I will have the rage, for deer Montecs again, but I am also trying for a 600+ Grain arrow[8D]
What I am saying one must understand equipment they are shooting. I truly believe most who bowhunt do not, and a lot of guys who setup bows do not. Gentleman the people in HNI are in the minorty of BH, it's sad but true.
I work the BH section at Cabelas a few times in Sept when they were busy. I heard stories about every head we sold. They all failed on perfect shots
Hell last year I was picking up some more Montecs, and a guy told me they were Junk[8D] When I informed him I am 16 for 16 with this head.
I got a blank stare
This year for Turkeys I will have the rage, for deer Montecs again
, but I am also trying for a 600+ Grain arrow[8D]
There is nothing sharper, nothing that can cause more blood lose more rapidly than a broke toilet, bare none. You'll leave a blood trail and drop over dead before you realize you've been cut, but ya can't hunt with it unless the setup is perfect. Some heads are like that. Not much good to the majority.
I like the thunderhead, nothing but blades slicing and dicing and at a scalp bevel.
02-15-2008, 11:48 AM
#40
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jun 2007
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag
I don't use mechanicals so no matter to me. Yet its strange but true how marketing can get a product up and running strong. I am betting strongly if the Rage heads were marketed under Rocky Mtn. they would not be used nearly as much.
I don't use mechanicals so no matter to me. Yet its strange but true how marketing can get a product up and running strong. I am betting strongly if the Rage heads were marketed under Rocky Mtn. they would not be used nearly as much.
Dan