Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well -UPDATE page 1 and 5
02-15-2008, 03:15 AM
#11
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
Guys I'm gonna post upaphotoand just tell you to trust me when I tell youit isUNdoctored. This was the last doe I shot, this past season.I don't post up some of the photos of the Rage trauma becaues I just don't think it's always necessary to show this much. To me, this is not disrespectful to the animal, though. I shot this doe from the other side.......retrieved her in the dark (about 30 minutes after I shot ther).......put her in the ATV....got her home.....and saw this when I unloaded her.
You're seeing the same thing I saw when I decided I needed to get the camera.
You're seeing the same thing I saw when I decided I needed to get the camera.
02-15-2008, 04:50 AM
#12
Fork Horn
Join Date: May 2006
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
The deployment of the blades is clearly a plus for the Rage. But the two blade head is trying to use wider cutting diameter to make up for being two bladed. Wider blades combined with somewhat shallow blade angle could reduce penetration for the two blade. The 3-blade ferrule just looks too fat to me! The big ferrule and again shallow blade angle could reduce penetration. That being said, on a high quality heart-lungs-liver shot through the rib cage, I have never heard of any penetration problems with the Rage/Snyper. Shoulder shots would be a problem as with most heads. IMHO!
02-15-2008, 04:53 AM
#13
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
Yes it's the body, bigger than the tip way before it hits the blades so it acts like a wedge. If you drive a wedge through some thing it will blow the back out of some thing like the pic above illustrates. I'd be willing to bet the degree of the tip, not the blade is much greater than 20 degrees. Broadside shots with any head will most likely be no big deal. Doesn't always happen that way though.
02-15-2008, 05:20 AM
#14
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
are some of you joking me???? I have NEVER seen so many good things said about a broadhead ..... here's the deal .... when your at the top, inevitably there will be some that try and knock you down ...... The Rage 2 blade has proven itself ....Jeff's reports ALONE are enough to convince me ..... ANYTHING, including a fiel tip, will work if put in the "pie plate" area ...... is it deer season yet 
02-15-2008, 05:56 AM
#16
Join Date: Mar 2004
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RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
Reported penetration problems????? Huh????????? What, didn't the arrow bury far enough in the ground???
I don't use them, but I've seen first hand the "penetration problems".......for the deer that is.....
Rage are unlike any mechanical head on the market. They burn VERY little KE upon entry, in fact, they are at that point a fixed blade head. They are FULLY deployed before they enter.
I don't use them, but I've seen first hand the "penetration problems".......for the deer that is.....
Rage are unlike any mechanical head on the market. They burn VERY little KE upon entry, in fact, they are at that point a fixed blade head. They are FULLY deployed before they enter.
02-15-2008, 06:27 AM
#18
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 247
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
I shot a 200lbs deer quartering away at 40 yards with a used rage on it. It blow right through and buried in the ground. This is with a 3 blade rage and buy the way I have a 26 inch draw length and pulling 70 lbs. So you do the math on how much Ke I have with a guardian with my draw length an with a 352 grain arrow that moves at 273 buy the way its 61fp of Ke. If I can do that I dont know to many people that would have a problem with one. I used to use muzzys until I did a test on BH I used a muzzy, rage, sidewinder and sonic all 100 grain the sonic and rage penetrated more in to a 2 inch board then the others. Now do the others get the job done yes but with my draw length I want what penetrates the best and after my test out of all of those is rage and sonic.
02-15-2008, 06:30 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: York,Pa
Posts: 2,645
RE: Why the "Rage" doesn't penetrate well
ORIGINAL: DropTine249
Same thing here Bow. I have shot more than 1 deer with a few of my heads. I didnt even have to sharpen them. Just hosed them off to get the dirt/mud out of them..checked that they were ok mechanically and they went back in the quiver.
My buck this year, I used the same point on him that I used the day before for that monster...It smacked into the ground, I pulled it out...Hosed it off and killed one the next day.
No issues other than you need to make sure that the blades are "locked" before you have to shoot.
Same thing here Bow. I have shot more than 1 deer with a few of my heads. I didnt even have to sharpen them. Just hosed them off to get the dirt/mud out of them..checked that they were ok mechanically and they went back in the quiver.
My buck this year, I used the same point on him that I used the day before for that monster...It smacked into the ground, I pulled it out...Hosed it off and killed one the next day.
No issues other than you need to make sure that the blades are "locked" before you have to shoot.