Hostage Pro Rest
#42
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
I've put the original through it's paces a while back. It's not a bad rest but I thought it paled compared to the whisker Biscuit. There are some problems with it that I think are "deal breakers" for me.
First, if the arrow is bumped (and it doesn't take much) it will fall through the bristles and bang against the housing. You will have to pull it back out and reset it. You're going to need to put on some mole skin (supplied) and I prefer my bows to be "mole skin free zones".
Second, if you shoot anythingmore than a 4deg. offset with your vanes or feathers they will hit the bristles. When I had mine I tried to get the vanes to clear and I couldn't. I was shooting some old helical vanes and when I rotated the nock so that the leading edge would clear, the trailering edge made contact. When I rotated so that the trailing edge of the vanes didn't hit, the leading edge would.
I noticed that my groups were considerably worse when the trailing edge made contact. When I rotated the arrow so that the leading edge hit, my groups were better but still not as good as whenI shot 4deg off set vanes through it.This is not like the W/B where the fletch contact is even going through the soft biscuit bristles. The Hostage has stiffer bristles like the black bottom bristles that you DON'T want your vane to go through on the W/B. They are also taperedsomewhat (look close at the "V" shape) and I think the tips of the "V" were catching the fletch and I believe knockingthe arrowoff course even if itwas ever so slightly.
The last thing I didn't care for was the construction. It's made of a polymer plastic that just doesn't seen to sturdy. I don't know if the new pro model is made from alum. or not but I hope it is.
Guys, this is by no means a new design, this rest has been out for some time.It used to be called theCatawba rest buteveryone seemed to think it was some kind of cheap W/B knockoff and nobody gave it the time of day......tilll BowTech bought out the company.
Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad rest, it shotpretty good with 4deg vanes but Iended up giving it away(see below) on one of BigJ's late night give aways for the reasons listed above.
First, if the arrow is bumped (and it doesn't take much) it will fall through the bristles and bang against the housing. You will have to pull it back out and reset it. You're going to need to put on some mole skin (supplied) and I prefer my bows to be "mole skin free zones".
Second, if you shoot anythingmore than a 4deg. offset with your vanes or feathers they will hit the bristles. When I had mine I tried to get the vanes to clear and I couldn't. I was shooting some old helical vanes and when I rotated the nock so that the leading edge would clear, the trailering edge made contact. When I rotated so that the trailing edge of the vanes didn't hit, the leading edge would.
I noticed that my groups were considerably worse when the trailing edge made contact. When I rotated the arrow so that the leading edge hit, my groups were better but still not as good as whenI shot 4deg off set vanes through it.This is not like the W/B where the fletch contact is even going through the soft biscuit bristles. The Hostage has stiffer bristles like the black bottom bristles that you DON'T want your vane to go through on the W/B. They are also taperedsomewhat (look close at the "V" shape) and I think the tips of the "V" were catching the fletch and I believe knockingthe arrowoff course even if itwas ever so slightly.
The last thing I didn't care for was the construction. It's made of a polymer plastic that just doesn't seen to sturdy. I don't know if the new pro model is made from alum. or not but I hope it is.
Guys, this is by no means a new design, this rest has been out for some time.It used to be called theCatawba rest buteveryone seemed to think it was some kind of cheap W/B knockoff and nobody gave it the time of day......tilll BowTech bought out the company.
Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad rest, it shotpretty good with 4deg vanes but Iended up giving it away(see below) on one of BigJ's late night give aways for the reasons listed above.
8-24-07
Here is a Bowtech Hostage Rest. I put it on a bow to test it out and see how it rates against my Whisker Biscuit. It's a good rest but I'm sticking with the W/B
It's ingreat like new shape and has only been mounted on one bow. First to respond wins it!
Good Luck!
Here is a Bowtech Hostage Rest. I put it on a bow to test it out and see how it rates against my Whisker Biscuit. It's a good rest but I'm sticking with the W/B
It's ingreat like new shape and has only been mounted on one bow. First to respond wins it!
Good Luck!
#44
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
The last thing I didn't care for was the construction. It's made of a polymer plastic that just doesn't seen to sturdy. I don't know if the new pro model is made from alum. or not but I hope it is.
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#46
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
ORIGINAL: LostInWoods
I am tempting to try a Whisker Biscuit but not sure how much accuracy and noise I will give up.
I am tempting to try a Whisker Biscuit but not sure how much accuracy and noise I will give up.
As far as noise when you draw, yep it makes a slight sound andas I understand it, some arrows make more sound than others although I've yet to use an arrow I thought was loudby any stretch of the imagination in all the years of using a Whisker Biscuit. I've shot many many different arrows over the years. I've useddifferent types of aluminum and carbon alike. Fromcheap ones to expensive ones, coated ones, bare carbon...you nameit none were too loud to the point where I felt uncomfortable hunting with them.
In all the years I've hunted with itI have yet to spook a deer with the sound it makes. In fact if you pay close attention, your huntingclothes will probably make more spund (especially in cold weather) when you draw thanyour bow does.
Does it make a sound when you draw? yep, mine makes the slightest ofhsssssss when I draw.........very faint, but it's never been a worry in the least. You need to remember your ear is only a few inches away from the rest/sound. Step back a few feet and you won't even notice it.
Even with all of the "perceived" cons, IMO the Whisker Biscuit is still by far the best hunting rest on the market today and I'll stick with it till a better one comes along......the Hostage ain't it.
#47
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
BigJ, did you see where the new Hostage Pro's bristles are adjustable to fix the issue where the arrow could fall off. It would make it exactly like the WB with openings for fletch clearing, that's win win isn't it?
#50
RE: Hostage Pro Rest
ORIGINAL: ubu
They have already made it to EBay, unless it is a copy!
They have already made it to EBay, unless it is a copy!
Edit: I did a search, there are zero Hostage Pro's on Ebay, they are all the original Hostage.