BigJ71

I don't think ANYONE is fast enough to move their hand in any way to effect the arrow flight in the three or so inches after the arrow nock leaves the string but before it clears the rest. Your hand would have HAD to be moving well before that happened.

We're talking fractions of a second here.....milliseconds in time, our reflexes are just not fast enough. They did a show about catching an arrow on Myth Busters and they found out it was not possible...not with human reflexes, and they even had the hand (mechanical) start to close even before the arrow was shot. It just couldn't be done. I cant see how anyonecan START to move their hand, wrist, arm etc... right at the time the arrow leaves the string and impart ANY adverse movement to the arrow before it clears the rest....about 3in of arrow. I ain't buying that.

No, if your torquing or dropping your bow arm, not following through etc...this is all happening BEFORE the arrow leaves the string and will effect anyones shot regardless of the type of rest they are using.

TFOX

Agreed,it will affect anyones shot,not disputing that,but how much is the question.

According to you there is no difference in the forgiveness of a deflex riser verses a reflex riser but there clearly is a difference.If the time is so small,why would it matter?


Have you ever seen anyone shoot and their bow kicks to the left at the shot.I would have to assume that would be a nightmare of a situation for a wb but again,my biggest concern with them is the tuning.Which also gets into forgiveness but I am not getting into that.


I don't expect everyone to agree with me nor do I want them too,that would be too boring[8D]

It just isn't a rest that fits everyones needs and everytime I have messed with one,it let me down in a big way all on the tuning end.

BowHuntingFool

EXCELLENT SHOT!!!!!!!



I would have to agree with you on this, total chat room, to many quality posts go to the way side and unanswered because of useless posts that have nothing to do with actual bowhunting! This forum turned into a tech, review and 3d forum as of late, kind of a bummer!

BigJ71

The "forgiveness" difference between the risers has more to do with their geometry and not with time the arrow spends on the string. The short brace height is a by product of placing the limb pockets further forward from the grip. THAT'S what makes a reflex riser harder or "less forgiving" to shoot not thetime the arrow spends on the string. They're more prone to torque than a deflex riser design, thus will amplify poor form more so than a deflex riser design (generally speaking).


This I agree with.

TFOX

Big,there's more to the deflex riser than just being harder totorque(which they are),the effects the torque has to the arrow while the arrow is on the string is part of it as well.


On a deflex riser,the arrow leaves the string sooner,making the effects of a bad shot less critical but still critical.If you have a wb on that bow,the wb nullifies somethe positives of the deflex riser imo.



I am not talking big differences,the bigger differences show up in the tuning.Again,IMO

Had fun,I gotta go to bed.[8D]

TFOX

OH,and we almost made 10 pages in ONE night.

BigJ71

Later bud!

Schultzy

You got that right BHF!

grneyemonstr

i still wont give up my hostage rest

atlasman

Isn't that true for drop aways aswell??........only you are now talking about the time the rest falls to when it leaves the string.No support or guidance other then the string at that point and surely the above willshow up just as dramatically.......won't they?......perhaps even moreso depending onhow quickly the rest drops. Some of the footage on theSpot Hogg website shows morethen half the arrow running by with no support...........if gravity can't even act that faston more then half an arrow then how dramatic would the things you mentioned haveto be to act on amere3-4 inches?

I don't think the WB or a drop away willbe the rate limiting factor in that situation........if it's even possible at all.