Bowhunting dangerous game!
02-08-2008, 05:39 PM
#91
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
"In this case, my definition of "inferior" would be that in the large proportion of the shots taken with this weapon, the game animal will, without a backup weapon, proceed to kill the hunter before said hunter can do anything about it!"
Hunter 59,
I think that is a huge generalization and one without merit. As my "Brother in arms", I wish you wouldcease making statements like that! Your viewpoint has zero basis and is purely opinion. That's the stuff/BS which hinders our efforts! I do not know about yours but there is nothing "inferior" about my archery equipment. That my friend is fact!
Hunter 59,
I think that is a huge generalization and one without merit. As my "Brother in arms", I wish you wouldcease making statements like that! Your viewpoint has zero basis and is purely opinion. That's the stuff/BS which hinders our efforts! I do not know about yours but there is nothing "inferior" about my archery equipment. That my friend is fact!
02-08-2008, 06:26 PM
#92
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
ORIGINAL: Hunter_59
What is your opinion on this subject? I've seen numerous television shows with bowhunters going after grizzly bear, african lions, leopards, water buffalo, etc. with thenon-existent "knock down" ability of a bow. Naturally, the guide or PH is always standing backup with a massive amount of firepower, ready to finish off the attacking animal with a death blow. Somehow, this just seems to me to be unethical.
If the same hunter was using a rifle, in say the varmint caliber of 222 or 22-250, their would be an outrage against such an act. Why do we seem to accept and even envy the hunter going after such game with a bow? Is the bow and arrow not "unsuitable" for any size game? What's your feedback on this subject?
What is your opinion on this subject? I've seen numerous television shows with bowhunters going after grizzly bear, african lions, leopards, water buffalo, etc. with thenon-existent "knock down" ability of a bow. Naturally, the guide or PH is always standing backup with a massive amount of firepower, ready to finish off the attacking animal with a death blow. Somehow, this just seems to me to be unethical.
If the same hunter was using a rifle, in say the varmint caliber of 222 or 22-250, their would be an outrage against such an act. Why do we seem to accept and even envy the hunter going after such game with a bow? Is the bow and arrow not "unsuitable" for any size game? What's your feedback on this subject?
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02-08-2008, 06:27 PM
#93
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
Great story iamyourhuckleberry! Thanks for posting.
As far as hunting dangerous game with a bow? I say go for it! If you have confidence withshooting yourequipment and the internal fortitude to pull it off then why not? The bow is a very deadly weapon ifused correctly and will dispatch a dangerous animal the same as a non dangerous animal......quickly.
Having a backup firearm just makes sense and has NOTHING to do with making or breaking a bow hunt. Sure you don't want to have to use it and would prefer if it wasn't,but if your life was on the line then it's nice to know it's there.
As far as hunting dangerous game with a bow? I say go for it! If you have confidence withshooting yourequipment and the internal fortitude to pull it off then why not? The bow is a very deadly weapon ifused correctly and will dispatch a dangerous animal the same as a non dangerous animal......quickly.
Having a backup firearm just makes sense and has NOTHING to do with making or breaking a bow hunt. Sure you don't want to have to use it and would prefer if it wasn't,but if your life was on the line then it's nice to know it's there.
02-08-2008, 06:54 PM
#94
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
ORIGINAL: BigJ71
Great story iamyourhuckleberry! Thanks for posting.
As far as hunting dangerous game with a bow? I say go for it! If you have confidence withshooting yourequipment and the internal fortitude to pull it off then why not? The bow is a very deadly weapon ifused correctly and will dispatch a dangerous animal the same as a non dangerous animal......quickly.
Having a backup firearm just makes sense and has NOTHING to do with making or breaking a bow hunt. Sure you don't want to have to use it and would prefer if it wasn't,but if your life was on the line then it's nice to know it's there.
Great story iamyourhuckleberry! Thanks for posting.
As far as hunting dangerous game with a bow? I say go for it! If you have confidence withshooting yourequipment and the internal fortitude to pull it off then why not? The bow is a very deadly weapon ifused correctly and will dispatch a dangerous animal the same as a non dangerous animal......quickly.
Having a backup firearm just makes sense and has NOTHING to do with making or breaking a bow hunt. Sure you don't want to have to use it and would prefer if it wasn't,but if your life was on the line then it's nice to know it's there.
Anyone who has the "intestinal fortitude" to keep their composure with a bow and put an arrow where it needs to go on a grizzly or lion has my respect, with or without backup firepower. As for me..... I have no desire to pursue critters that can eat me.
Courage is the mastery of fear; the absence of fear is either total ignorance or sheer stupidity. I'm not ignorant and I'm not stupid,but Idon't think I could master this particular situation, backup shooters or no.Besides, they might miss...... I'll leave the grizzlies and lionsto someone else. After all, "discretion is the better part of valor".
02-08-2008, 08:15 PM
#95
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
Thanks for the great story, and for coming into this discussion as the only participant with any relevant first hand experience. What an adrenalin rush it must have been to shoot that lion!!
02-09-2008, 07:50 AM
#96
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
ORIGINAL: Hunter_59
No one here has mentioned anything about banning any type of hunting here! I merely asked for opinions and had several interesting viewpoints expressed. It does however seem the gun hunters police their rank and file better than do the bow hunters. As I stated earlier, if I were to use a small caliber centerfire, say 222 cal.to hunt elk, I would be chastised relentlessly on the big game forum for using an inadequate cartridge for the quarry. Knowing fullwell that a well placed shot with a 222 through the boiler room of an elk will do the job.
In the same token, I know that a well placed shot with a sharp broadhead will take down any dangerous game animal! It just seems to beapproaching theethical boundary when I go to war with a weapon that isfar more inferior than the power ofmy adversary. In this case, my definition of "inferior" would be that in the large proportion of the shots taken with this weapon, the game animal will, without a backup weapon, proceed to kill the hunter before said hunter can do anything about it!
Please realize, this is my "opinion", and I do notintend to judge anyone who hunts this way! Ibelong to a"brotherhood" of hunters and realize we all have acommon love of the sport.My only intention herewas tocreate a dialogue about this aspect of our sport.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Be very careful now hunter 59! The last thing we need is hunters going after other hunters! What is your goal here? To ban certain hunting? When you do these things you are moving one step closer to losing your hunting rights. Think before you speak or write! Should we leave it up to you to decide what type of hunting to ban. Shame on you!
Be very careful now hunter 59! The last thing we need is hunters going after other hunters! What is your goal here? To ban certain hunting? When you do these things you are moving one step closer to losing your hunting rights. Think before you speak or write! Should we leave it up to you to decide what type of hunting to ban. Shame on you!
In the same token, I know that a well placed shot with a sharp broadhead will take down any dangerous game animal! It just seems to beapproaching theethical boundary when I go to war with a weapon that isfar more inferior than the power ofmy adversary. In this case, my definition of "inferior" would be that in the large proportion of the shots taken with this weapon, the game animal will, without a backup weapon, proceed to kill the hunter before said hunter can do anything about it!
Please realize, this is my "opinion", and I do notintend to judge anyone who hunts this way! Ibelong to a"brotherhood" of hunters and realize we all have acommon love of the sport.My only intention herewas tocreate a dialogue about this aspect of our sport.
There are different size bows and arrows out there ya know, same as guns.
Some hunts the outfitter won't get paid until after the animal is shot, (doesn't matter if it's recovered as far as paying for it). Be kind of hard to collect if the client is dead.
I think that if I was alone and only had a bow I wouldn't be going after things that could eat me unless I had too.
Come to think of itI wouldn't with a gun either.
02-09-2008, 07:53 AM
#97
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
ORIGINAL: Roskoe
Thanks for the great story, and for coming into this discussion as the only participant with any relevant first hand experience. What an adrenalin rush it must have been to shoot that lion!!
Thanks for the great story, and for coming into this discussion as the only participant with any relevant first hand experience. What an adrenalin rush it must have been to shoot that lion!!
02-09-2008, 08:33 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bowhunting dangerous game!
ORIGINAL: huntingson
IT's actually not surprizing at all that Chuck and the boogeyman were mentioned together because...
Every night before going to sleep, the Boogeyman checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
See? It all makes sense now doesn't it?
ORIGINAL: Germ
How the hell did we get from huntingdangerous game too:
Chuck Norris in a bar with or without a gun[&:] and now we have the boggeyman
How the hell did we get from huntingdangerous game too:
Chuck Norris in a bar with or without a gun[&:] and now we have the boggeyman
Every night before going to sleep, the Boogeyman checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
See? It all makes sense now doesn't it?
