DL too long?
01-30-2008, 09:24 PM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: DL too long?
01-31-2008, 07:03 AM
#14
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RE: DL too long?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Seems that almost everyone who posts photos of their "form" (archery-wise) ......gets told their DL is too long.
Why is this? Are the US archery shops just this bad at determining DL? Is it that archers lie about this like men lie about their height?
Why is everyone overdrawn?
Seems that almost everyone who posts photos of their "form" (archery-wise) ......gets told their DL is too long.
Why is this? Are the US archery shops just this bad at determining DL? Is it that archers lie about this like men lie about their height?
Why is everyone overdrawn?
I myself like a good anchor and one is my thumb under my jaw. I know alot of this is from finger shooting so many years. It also gives me room to follow thru or pull thru shot. Alot of newer shooters tend to like to grip thier release and just operate the trigger finger instead of letting thier back pull thru.
01-31-2008, 07:22 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Wadena, MN
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RE: DL too long?
I remember when we were all 30" draws.
ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
Mine isn't... But I set my bow up myself when I bought it.
Lots of shops go by what their customer tells them that they're draw length is rather than actually measuring it themselves. I see a lot of it here in Spokane. I measured every customer regardless of what they came in telling me it was. 75% of them were wrong.
Mine isn't... But I set my bow up myself when I bought it.
Lots of shops go by what their customer tells them that they're draw length is rather than actually measuring it themselves. I see a lot of it here in Spokane. I measured every customer regardless of what they came in telling me it was. 75% of them were wrong.
01-31-2008, 07:25 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: DL too long?
I think alot of people are overbowed for several reasons:
- that "little blue bow with the indexed arrow" that shops use to measure is TERRIBLE. There's no weight and people who are starting out will naturally draw this back way to far. If you don't correct them you are starting off to long.
- length == speed.
- For some its an ego thing, they don't want to admit they really are a 27 inch draw, not 30.
- most bows on the shelf are 29-30 inches.
For "internet coaches" to many look at just one thing. They see the nock back "to far" and say dude your draw length is to long. It can't be done like that, there's to many variables:
- is the bow shoulder scrunched up or kept low
- is the bow arm in the right place
- is the person leaning back
- hows the head position
You really need to see em shoot as well.
Plus, "to long" is the current fad to say. I've been told mine is about 1 inch long, well I shortened it a bit and couldn't shoot it to save my life, gave it several weeks, couldn't shoot. Lengthened it and poof, shot better.
If one looks at Jeff Hopkins, arguably one of the best shots on the planet and probably the best 3D shooter, you would say his is to long. Doubt he'd listen though!
Many are also overbowed, for alot of the same reasons, on draw weight.
- that "little blue bow with the indexed arrow" that shops use to measure is TERRIBLE. There's no weight and people who are starting out will naturally draw this back way to far. If you don't correct them you are starting off to long.
- length == speed.
- For some its an ego thing, they don't want to admit they really are a 27 inch draw, not 30.
- most bows on the shelf are 29-30 inches.
For "internet coaches" to many look at just one thing. They see the nock back "to far" and say dude your draw length is to long. It can't be done like that, there's to many variables:
- is the bow shoulder scrunched up or kept low
- is the bow arm in the right place
- is the person leaning back
- hows the head position
You really need to see em shoot as well.
Plus, "to long" is the current fad to say. I've been told mine is about 1 inch long, well I shortened it a bit and couldn't shoot it to save my life, gave it several weeks, couldn't shoot. Lengthened it and poof, shot better.
If one looks at Jeff Hopkins, arguably one of the best shots on the planet and probably the best 3D shooter, you would say his is to long. Doubt he'd listen though!
Many are also overbowed, for alot of the same reasons, on draw weight.
01-31-2008, 07:28 AM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Indiana (southern)
Posts: 6,146
RE: DL too long?
I had not posted a pic of my form but was having arm slap troubles, i posted about it, most said my draw length was to long, it was fine before. I believe it was wind walker that posted photos of proper grip, ends up i had gotten in a habbit of using TO MUCH palm when gripping my bow. I corrected that and problem is gone. speaking of wind walker, where the heck is he???
01-31-2008, 09:02 AM
#18
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: DL too long?
Some of the 'draw length too long' stuff is due to the almost slavish devotion to the idea of sticking the nose on the string as an anchor reference, and also having a slavish devotion to shooting short bows. They don'tgo together!With short bows, you've either got to have a nose like a collie or pull way back behind a 'normal' anchor point in order to offset the severe string angle and get that schnozzola onto the string.
01-31-2008, 12:29 PM
#20
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RE: DL too long?
Back when I switched from a recurve to a compound, the shortest draw available in a hunting weight bow was 28".
So I shot 28". Everybody shot that or longer.
I'm now down to a 26.5" bow. It's still probably too long but it's comfortable to me. (old dog/new tricks kind of thing) My form is and always has been awful, so I definitely don't recommend shooting the wrong sized equipment.
On the other hand, form isn't what kills deer.
So I shot 28". Everybody shot that or longer.
I'm now down to a 26.5" bow. It's still probably too long but it's comfortable to me. (old dog/new tricks kind of thing) My form is and always has been awful, so I definitely don't recommend shooting the wrong sized equipment.
On the other hand, form isn't what kills deer.