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What is your view on Outfitters?
#121
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
ORIGINAL: THWACK_007
PUBLIC LAND!!!!!
If you need somewhere to hunt that you dont have to lease!
Plus my tax money is helping pay for YOU a place to hunt.
Since all of these a$$hole landowners are trying to make a little extra money and pay for their land then I guess you can go to PUBLIC LAND and hunt. What kind of landowner is dumb enough to try to pay for his land anyways?? Geeeez!!!
Come on people..get real! I mean whos fault is it that the landowner leased his/her land....the landowner or the outfitter/hunters?
PUBLIC LAND!!!!!
If you need somewhere to hunt that you dont have to lease!
Plus my tax money is helping pay for YOU a place to hunt.
Since all of these a$$hole landowners are trying to make a little extra money and pay for their land then I guess you can go to PUBLIC LAND and hunt. What kind of landowner is dumb enough to try to pay for his land anyways?? Geeeez!!!
Come on people..get real! I mean whos fault is it that the landowner leased his/her land....the landowner or the outfitter/hunters?
#122
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 575
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag
I have a question. While I realize much of Shawnee National Forest is privately owned, I've heard rumors the state of Illinois leases some of Shawnee National Forest's public land to a few outfitters. Is this true?
I have a question. While I realize much of Shawnee National Forest is privately owned, I've heard rumors the state of Illinois leases some of Shawnee National Forest's public land to a few outfitters. Is this true?
#123
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
Actually, none of the Shawnee National Forest is privately owned. And, it is owned by the Federal Government not the State, so i find it hard to believe that any of it gets leased out by the State.
#124
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
ORIGINAL: THWACK_007
PUBLIC LAND!!!!!
If you need somewhere to hunt that you dont have to lease!
Plus my tax money is helping pay for YOU a place to hunt.
Since all of these a$$hole landowners are trying to make a little extra money and pay for their land then I guess you can go to PUBLIC LAND and hunt. What kind of landowner is dumb enough to try to pay for his land anyways?? Geeeez!!!
Come on people..get real! I mean whos fault is it that the landowner leased his/her land....the landowner or the outfitter/hunters?
PUBLIC LAND!!!!!
If you need somewhere to hunt that you dont have to lease!
Plus my tax money is helping pay for YOU a place to hunt.
Since all of these a$$hole landowners are trying to make a little extra money and pay for their land then I guess you can go to PUBLIC LAND and hunt. What kind of landowner is dumb enough to try to pay for his land anyways?? Geeeez!!!
Come on people..get real! I mean whos fault is it that the landowner leased his/her land....the landowner or the outfitter/hunters?
People like you... you just don't understand anything. There's no sense in even talking to you about it.
#125
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
Posts: 26,274
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
Dont care for them. The w h o r e out the land and animals for top dollar, leaving the land and animals in bad shap. Then move on. I had outfitters ruin one of my properties. They leased land next to mine and raped it, until it was out of animals, then moved on. It took more than 8 years before I started seeing animals agian. That was after they gave up the lease next to my land. They had clients out 7 days a week. Thats a lot of deer for one area. They didnt care, they leased it, and when the animals were gone, they gave up the lease and moved to the next streach of land. Im see that very problem around me right now with all the goose outfitters. Use to be thousands up on thousands of birds around here. Now you are lucky to see a few. The outfitters have just about drivin them out of this county.
#126
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
we run coyote dogs all over this part of IL, and I can't tell you how many outfitted properties we have permission to coyote hunt that we find dead bucks on.......with the heads cut off!! It's sad. There is an investigation going on....short fruitless one.....pointing towards outfitters that dumped a half dozen dead headless bucks in the local gas station dumpster!!! I don't like the idea of hunting becoming a big money industry, but if they are doing it LEGALLY....why not.
#127
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 575
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
ORIGINAL: Cougar Mag
I beg to differ, at least about some of it not being privately owned. While picking up a plat map at the National Forest Service headquarters in Harrisburg an official told me that not all of the available public hunting land was marked as sometimes signs are weathered or torn down. On the plat map I bought (which shows all of Shawnee in Illinois) there is quite a bit of the forest itself which has been private property for many years. They advised me to pick out an area or two I was interested in and buy maps for those specific areas detailing the boundaries.
Actually, none of the Shawnee National Forest is privately owned. And, it is owned by the Federal Government not the State, so i find it hard to believe that any of it gets leased out by the State.
Actually, there are lots of pieces of private property that are completely surrounded by National Forest Land. I think that is what is confusing the issue here. I never meant to imply that the National Forest was one contiguous piece of ground.By definition, if it is National Forest Land, it is public, not private. The point is, the parcels that aremarked on your map as private property are not part of the National Forest,therefore i stand by my statement that NONE of the Shawnee National Forest is private property.
#128
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
Actually, there are lots of pieces of private property that are completely surrounded by National Forest Land. I think that is what is confusing the issue here. I never meant to imply that the National Forest was one contiguous piece of ground. By definition, if it is National Forest Land, it is public, not private. Therefore i stand by my statement that NONE of the Shawnee National Forest is private property.
#129
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
Cougar, not to get off topic, but just noticed that you're from SE central, IL. Around where at in central Illinois? Im from Paris. (Edgar county)
#130
RE: What is your view on Outfitters?
Cougar, not to get off topic, but just noticed that you're from SE central, IL. Around where at in central Illinois? Im from Paris. (Edgar county)