high country ultra force

i was wondering if they made a carbon arrow with the correct spine for a 70# bow? and would it pay to switch to a carbon or should i stick to my 700 grain aluminums? (i've had the alluiminums for a year and only bent 2) they're very durable.

davidmil

They make a carbon for anything. Which one you need depends on a lot of things, draw length, release, bow etc etc etc. IF you've been shooting some aluminums for a year you may THINK you've only bent two.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

trapperDave

&quot; IF you've been shooting some aluminums for a year you may THINK you've only bent two.&quot;

Ditto...You haven't seen durable till ya shoot carbons.

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If I ain't fishin',I'm wishin'!

Rob/PA Bowyer

High Country Ultra Force, don't be detered and I admire your thinking and your right on the mark. If you decide to give carbons a try, sway to the heaviest ones for your bow. You'll get the best of both worlds, the durability of carbon arrows and the weight of aluminums, you'll be astonded...but don't give up all that weight just to go carbon...it isn't always worth it. Carbon arrows don't solve all the bowhunting world problems. I've been shooting them all for years, I go back and forth from carbon to aluminum and am currently shooting ACC's...they all perform.

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b-rice

Personaly depending on how much you whant to spend i love the easton a/c/c got ot there wedsite and check them out at www.easton-archery.com

WThunter

It is my understanding that some Carbon arrows are wrapped aluminum and some are 100% carbon. Is this correct? Doesn't the weight have to do with the number of wraps? I thought some are made for hunting and the lighter ones are for 3D. Do you need to have some of both if you are into 3D?

Arthur P

I'd suggest getting hold of a couple of carbons and shooting them before buying a dozen. I guarantee you'll feel a good bit more recoil and vibration from your bow than you do now. Enough that you may not care to make the switch. But then, there's that speed thing and that is awfully addictive.

Another thing, if your bow is more than 7-8 years old and has been shot with heavy arrows it's entire career, I wouldn't recommend switching at all.

high country ultra force

how do you test if youve bent an aluminam arrow? and i went to my local proshop and they had some terminators they were 30 for 3 is that about right? ad scince they are only 400grains would the speed i gain make up for the ke i lose by going to a lighter arrow?

silentassassin

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I guarantee you'll feel a good bit more recoil and vibration from your bow than you do now. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
HCUF,
If you can tell much difference in recoil and vibration when you switch from aluminum to carbon, you probably ought to consider getting a new bow! I shoot a 400 gr. finsihed arrow and I have 0 vibration and 0 recoil and I don't really see how I could have less than 0. Shoot whatever you have the most confidence in. Both will do the job. Both kill numerous deer every year! I think if you took a poll that more people shoot carbons these days than aluminum. That doesn't mean that carbon is better but I don't think the majority of bowhunters would be shooting them if they weren't comparable! ACC's are actually my favorite. I switch around some but I always wind up going back to them!

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Arthur P

To check straightness: You can lay arrows on a flat surface and roll them, looking for daylight between the shaft and the surface, or you can check them with a dial indicator. I use an indicator on my arrow straightening tool.

Whether or not you lose energy with the lighter arrows depends on how efficient your bow is with those 700 gn arrows. It is possible to overweight a bow's efficiency range with arrows and, if that's the case with your setup, you could gain energy with carbon. Not likely, but possible. Anyway, a couple ft lbs is all anyone generally loses with light arrows anyhow.

You definitely will not bump up the speed enough to equal the momentum you're getting now, but you'll still have plenty to blow thru a deer. Assuming, of course, that you do your part and put the arrow where it belongs.

Newton's Third Law of Motion states, 'for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.' There is no such thing as zero recoil. Some people are simply more tolerant of shock and vibration than others. Some bows are designed to cushion and dissipate it better. A Mathews Q2XL I shot once was incredible at reducing felt vibration. But it's still there. Going from 700 grains to 400 grains, you'll definitely feel a difference. Whether or not it's objectionable depends on you and your bow.

I don't know if you've noticed how many people have a variety of rubber doohickeys attatched all over their bows. Light arrows and vibration are the reason.




Edited by - Arthur P on 02/05/2003 08:32:01