is this really hunting?
01-13-2008, 12:37 AM
#21
Giant Nontypical
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Jefferson County, Missouri
Posts: 7,684
RE: is this really hunting?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
I gotta say if what you say is true I then tip my hat to you for hitting your paper plates at these yardages! Your challenging yourself in the shooting part of it, not the hunting part. You know dang well you can do it at 500 yards so you choose to challenge yourself more and get that 1000 yard kill.
ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner
ok guys I'm here, a mod told me about this thread, so lets get ready to rumble, I'm a 47 year old 60% deaf ex-bowhunter, so many deer running around and I'm just looking for a challenge. anyone with an accurate rifle can do this, done properly its not hard.
Va you think I can't kill a deer at over 700 yards? ya want some phone numbers of folks who have been present when it was done?
any of you who use compound bows are just as guilty as I of using modern technology to your benafit, I bow hunted for 20 years, gave it up due to lack of time and not really any challenge to it, yep in oct here you can almost walk up to a deer and shoot it, come november its a different story.
Its not really hunting? ya think? when do you start preparing for next season? I allready have, I'm on the range every week testing loads and bullets, now is my prime time, temps and bar pressure are simular, so now is when I work on it hard. Do you have any idea how much you limit yourself when you take up this endeavor? I need a deer unspooked, and then I need 2 minutes to prepare for the shot, after I get most of my measurements, most just walk away, during the rut you get a ratio of about 4% of available shots, to shots taken, I challenge each and every one of you to take a buck during peak rut at 500 yards.
RR
ok guys I'm here, a mod told me about this thread, so lets get ready to rumble, I'm a 47 year old 60% deaf ex-bowhunter, so many deer running around and I'm just looking for a challenge. anyone with an accurate rifle can do this, done properly its not hard.
Va you think I can't kill a deer at over 700 yards? ya want some phone numbers of folks who have been present when it was done?
any of you who use compound bows are just as guilty as I of using modern technology to your benafit, I bow hunted for 20 years, gave it up due to lack of time and not really any challenge to it, yep in oct here you can almost walk up to a deer and shoot it, come november its a different story.
Its not really hunting? ya think? when do you start preparing for next season? I allready have, I'm on the range every week testing loads and bullets, now is my prime time, temps and bar pressure are simular, so now is when I work on it hard. Do you have any idea how much you limit yourself when you take up this endeavor? I need a deer unspooked, and then I need 2 minutes to prepare for the shot, after I get most of my measurements, most just walk away, during the rut you get a ratio of about 4% of available shots, to shots taken, I challenge each and every one of you to take a buck during peak rut at 500 yards.
RR
01-13-2008, 12:42 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blanchester Ohio USA
Posts: 1,269
RE: is this really hunting?
My thoughts on this subject are like this.
I took up archery to get in the woods more and be able to hunt more. What I found was I needed to practice alot to be realy good. A 20 yard shot is more like a 100 or more shot with a shotgun or rifle. Its not real difficult once you've practiced but it is when you first start. So now your good at 20 try 30 or 40 or 50. I can shoot in practice those distances with my bow and I like to. Am I proficiant (Sp?) not to my liking. So I limit myself in a hunting situation. I enjoy shooting my bow like shooting a rifle at long range. It take practice and doing everything right every time. Plus I don't have the place for long range shooting.
As for it being hunting...If he had posted that he had taken an elk or moose at that distance everyone would be saying congrats. He has the skills and the place and seems to take it seriously so whats the deal. Sure not everyone can or should do it but I still consider it hunting. Like I said if he were out west people wouldn't question him much.
Heck I'd just like to be able to shoot that distance on a target.
I took up archery to get in the woods more and be able to hunt more. What I found was I needed to practice alot to be realy good. A 20 yard shot is more like a 100 or more shot with a shotgun or rifle. Its not real difficult once you've practiced but it is when you first start. So now your good at 20 try 30 or 40 or 50. I can shoot in practice those distances with my bow and I like to. Am I proficiant (Sp?) not to my liking. So I limit myself in a hunting situation. I enjoy shooting my bow like shooting a rifle at long range. It take practice and doing everything right every time. Plus I don't have the place for long range shooting.
As for it being hunting...If he had posted that he had taken an elk or moose at that distance everyone would be saying congrats. He has the skills and the place and seems to take it seriously so whats the deal. Sure not everyone can or should do it but I still consider it hunting. Like I said if he were out west people wouldn't question him much.
Heck I'd just like to be able to shoot that distance on a target.
01-13-2008, 01:12 AM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Texas and Arkansas
Posts: 1,496
RE: is this really hunting?
As long as a person can consistently hit and kill a deer at long ranges without wounding/not recovering a deer, I don't have a problem with it. I hunt with bow and rifle (didn't pull a trigger this year, but got three with a bow), and I would have more problem with a bow hunter who wounded/didn't recover a deer.That person is a slob hunter...the long range hunter isn't.
01-13-2008, 03:22 AM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: ND
Posts: 1,627
RE: is this really hunting?
It wouldn't be anything I would be interested in doing but then there are a few things such as baiting, shooting deer while drive hunting, sitting in a shooting shackthat doesn't really interest me either. I choose how I like to hunt... other's choose how they like to hunt. I respect his choice, a baiters or drive hunter and someday may try them if I haven't already.
Ive been on lots of drives mainly just as a walker to help outbut have shot a few deer.
I've sat over a bait pile twice. One years ago thatI put there just to see what it was like. And this year when I hiked a long ways into a spot only to find someone baited it. Too late to go to another spot so I just sat and watched. Got to admit a lot of myths were busted. In two sits had over a dozen bucks come into those two bait piles. Wasn't too surprised to see two that would make P&Y and two that would have been close. Neverbothered to evenpick up the bow. Have a friend who is a big baiterand has shot two 140s and a 160 class buck in the lastthree years. He enjoys it. Good for him !!
I am just glad I have the choice of many methods for hunting to figure out which interest me the most. Sounds Like Ridge Runner has tried a lot too in deciding his. Someone doesn't like how I hunt... tough !! I hunt for me. It should be no different for someone else.
Well maybe not able bodiedroadhunters?? I am not perfect !
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Tim
Ive been on lots of drives mainly just as a walker to help outbut have shot a few deer.
I've sat over a bait pile twice. One years ago thatI put there just to see what it was like. And this year when I hiked a long ways into a spot only to find someone baited it. Too late to go to another spot so I just sat and watched. Got to admit a lot of myths were busted. In two sits had over a dozen bucks come into those two bait piles. Wasn't too surprised to see two that would make P&Y and two that would have been close. Neverbothered to evenpick up the bow. Have a friend who is a big baiterand has shot two 140s and a 160 class buck in the lastthree years. He enjoys it. Good for him !!
I am just glad I have the choice of many methods for hunting to figure out which interest me the most. Sounds Like Ridge Runner has tried a lot too in deciding his. Someone doesn't like how I hunt... tough !! I hunt for me. It should be no different for someone else.
Well maybe not able bodiedroadhunters?? I am not perfect !![
] [:'(]Tim
01-13-2008, 05:12 AM
#25
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 1997
Location: Cheasapeke and Delaware Bay Region
Posts: 10,485
RE: is this really hunting?
Wow, can you tell the seasons are comeing to an end? Going over toanother forum, finding a thread to debate and bring that thread here. PeeeeUuuuuu. Get a life, go out and shed hunt or something. It's legal to shoot at those ranges so let it be. RR seems to have it all together and for him to have to defend himself repeatly is childish. It works for him.
01-13-2008, 06:04 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 1,653
RE: is this really hunting?
I would love to be able to shoot moa groups at 100 yards never mind 500!!
Most guys claim to be good shots but when you go to the range they are a rare breed and IF I could kill a deer cleanly @ 1000 yards I might even give it a try just for the yuk yuk..
It could never replace watching a deer at 20 yards sticking his tounge up his nose but so what.
Ethics and morality within the confines of the law are for each of us to decide for ourselves.
Most guys claim to be good shots but when you go to the range they are a rare breed and IF I could kill a deer cleanly @ 1000 yards I might even give it a try just for the yuk yuk..
It could never replace watching a deer at 20 yards sticking his tounge up his nose but so what.
Ethics and morality within the confines of the law are for each of us to decide for ourselves.
01-13-2008, 06:34 AM
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: is this really hunting?
Ridge Runner, theelitist attitudes many of these guys haveabout gun hunters got me inspired to get back into muzzleloading. Just to piss 'em off. [8D]
I'm in the process of building a Kentucky rifle kit at the moment... I'll be bluing the barrel and setting the stock retainer pins today. You keep on punching their tickets way out there, bud. I'm out to pick up your chump change with patched round ballsat 100 yards and under.
I'm in the process of building a Kentucky rifle kit at the moment... I'll be bluing the barrel and setting the stock retainer pins today. You keep on punching their tickets way out there, bud. I'm out to pick up your chump change with patched round ballsat 100 yards and under.
