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Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
#81
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
I don't understand the needto ressurect this topic again.Hasn't the snot been beaten out of it already? We all know what constitutes poaching.I guess I am a poacher because I have sunk into the soft earth while walking,which is a definition of poaching apparently.
I respect and adhere to the game laws.I have turned poachers in on several occaisions for what I viewed as a violation that was significant.
If I turned in everyone I knew or was acquainted with for using someone else's tag or walking across private property without permission to access state land or shooting after sunset.(Thats actually a good one,if you hear a shot after sunset on your way out of the woods because of course you leave the woods at sunset,even though you can clearly see for another half hour do you go call the game warden,if so why not?)In this age of communication technology if someone flies by you on a highway exceeding the speed limit by 20 plus miles per hour,do you get their plate number and call the police? If not how is that any different than not turning in a violation of the game laws?
There has to be some sensibility and/or discretion tied to these things.I gaurantee some of the holier than though types are not living there life on the straight and narrow in other perhaps more meaningful area's.I know a number of people who are regular church goers who are having affairs.
Some of you folks need to loosen the halo's.I have never witnessed this much perfection in one place!
I respect and adhere to the game laws.I have turned poachers in on several occaisions for what I viewed as a violation that was significant.
If I turned in everyone I knew or was acquainted with for using someone else's tag or walking across private property without permission to access state land or shooting after sunset.(Thats actually a good one,if you hear a shot after sunset on your way out of the woods because of course you leave the woods at sunset,even though you can clearly see for another half hour do you go call the game warden,if so why not?)In this age of communication technology if someone flies by you on a highway exceeding the speed limit by 20 plus miles per hour,do you get their plate number and call the police? If not how is that any different than not turning in a violation of the game laws?
There has to be some sensibility and/or discretion tied to these things.I gaurantee some of the holier than though types are not living there life on the straight and narrow in other perhaps more meaningful area's.I know a number of people who are regular church goers who are having affairs.
Some of you folks need to loosen the halo's.I have never witnessed this much perfection in one place!
#82
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
I would be having a chat with that Wardens supervisor.Your friend should have been given a warning or the warden should have gone to the landowners home to verify your friends permission.
It is stupidity like that that angers a lawful person into becoming unlawful.
It is stupidity like that that angers a lawful person into becoming unlawful.
#84
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
This sounds kind of odd. Unless the landowner is willing to press charges, there is no crime here. I wonder if it isn't one of those deals where the landowner called the Game Warden in the first place, and didn't want a confrontation with the unwelcome hunter who, at one time in the past, did have permission.
There is parcel of propertywhere one of my best buddies has an exclusive on the hunting rights. Only problem is that, in years past, various locals have had access - verbal permission. It is a royal pain keeping them out now. And the landowner doesn't really want to stir up any bad relations with the neighbors - so there is no such thing as calling the sheriff or game warden.
There is parcel of propertywhere one of my best buddies has an exclusive on the hunting rights. Only problem is that, in years past, various locals have had access - verbal permission. It is a royal pain keeping them out now. And the landowner doesn't really want to stir up any bad relations with the neighbors - so there is no such thing as calling the sheriff or game warden.
#85
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
Unless the landowner is willing to press charges, there is no crime here.
#86
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
If a man shoots a deer to feed his family, you won't find me turning him in. The animals were put here for our benefit, its only recently that we've decided to regulate how many and what kind can be taken. While it may be better for the ecosystem for there to be regulations, I have no problem with a man taking a game animal to feed his family.
That does not mean I condone theft in order to feed one's family.
"But Dan, shooting an illegal deer is stealing!"
Grey area. God put the animals on this earth for us to use as we see fit. If it means someone shoots one out of "season" because his freezer needs filling, so be it.
I do not however agree with killing an animal out of season for the pure trophy aspect of the kill. Shoot a doe if you need the meat.
I know a lot of you won't agree with me and I could honestly care less.
That does not mean I condone theft in order to feed one's family.
"But Dan, shooting an illegal deer is stealing!"
Grey area. God put the animals on this earth for us to use as we see fit. If it means someone shoots one out of "season" because his freezer needs filling, so be it.
I do not however agree with killing an animal out of season for the pure trophy aspect of the kill. Shoot a doe if you need the meat.
I know a lot of you won't agree with me and I could honestly care less.
#87
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: Roskoe
This sounds kind of odd. Unless the landowner is willing to press charges, there is no crime here.
This sounds kind of odd. Unless the landowner is willing to press charges, there is no crime here.
#89
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: Arthur P
Depends on the state if there's a crime or not. Like I've already posted, hunting on private property without permission is a felony here. It's up to the district attorney whether or not charges are filed, not the landowner.
Unless the landowner is willing to press charges, there is no crime here.
#90
RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter
If a man shoots a deer to feed his family, you won't find me turning him in. The animals were put here for our benefit, its only recently that we've decided to regulate how many and what kind can be taken. While it may be better for the ecosystem for there to be regulations, I have no problem with a man taking a game animal to feed his family.
That does not mean I condone theft in order to feed one's family.
"But Dan, shooting an illegal deer is stealing!"
Grey area. God put the animals on this earth for us to use as we see fit. If it means someone shoots one out of "season" because his freezer needs filling, so be it.
I do not however agree with killing an animal out of season for the pure trophy aspect of the kill. Shoot a doe if you need the meat.
I know a lot of you won't agree with me and I could honestly care less.
If a man shoots a deer to feed his family, you won't find me turning him in. The animals were put here for our benefit, its only recently that we've decided to regulate how many and what kind can be taken. While it may be better for the ecosystem for there to be regulations, I have no problem with a man taking a game animal to feed his family.
That does not mean I condone theft in order to feed one's family.
"But Dan, shooting an illegal deer is stealing!"
Grey area. God put the animals on this earth for us to use as we see fit. If it means someone shoots one out of "season" because his freezer needs filling, so be it.
I do not however agree with killing an animal out of season for the pure trophy aspect of the kill. Shoot a doe if you need the meat.
I know a lot of you won't agree with me and I could honestly care less.
But its been awhile maybe all the Poachers caught them all.
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