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Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
12-28-2007, 12:44 PM
#31
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
No, no, you are confused. It has to be a need to be a justified poach. Like, if it is raining really hard and your family is hungry but doesn't want hotdogs and you need red meat and there is a big fat doe in your backyard. THEN poaching is OK.
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
12-28-2007, 12:44 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
I think originally this was about friends/aquaintances killing more deer than the limit for said area. Whether that defines poaching or not, it is breaking the law. Crime? I believe that is the word we are looking to define here. Can someone post that definition up? Correct me if I am wrong Jeff, but is this not what you are looking for?
If breaking the law is a crime, then bagging more than your limit or illegaly taking game is a crime. A crime is punishable by law. Do we want a poacher to be punished?
LT
If breaking the law is a crime, then bagging more than your limit or illegaly taking game is a crime. A crime is punishable by law. Do we want a poacher to be punished?
LT
12-28-2007, 12:45 PM
#33
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Camden County, Missouri
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone feeding their family. But there are ways to legally harvest animals to feed the family. If they are landowners they can get free tags for everyone in their family. I think the problem is the scum that drives down the roads looking for big bucks and shoots them, cuts off their heads and leaves the rest to waste. Happens alot here. If you are poaching on someone elses property you are not only poaching but then you will be trespassing (breaking another law) to recover the animal. Poaching and trespassing laws need changed to be much more stringent then we must prosicute, prosicute, prosicute!
12-28-2007, 12:46 PM
#34
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
No, no, you are confused. It has to be a need to be a justified poach. Like, if it is raining really hard and your family is hungry but doesn't want hotdogs and you need red meat and there is a big fat doe in your backyard. THEN poaching is OK.
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
So if we're hungry but too lazy to go to the store and there's a nice doe crossing the field??
Save's on gas too![8D]
12-28-2007, 12:46 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
bruce ..... did you forget your meds today?[8D]
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
No, no, you are confused. It has to be a need to be a justified poach. Like, if it is raining really hard and your family is hungry but doesn't want hotdogs and you need red meat and there is a big fat doe in your backyard. THEN poaching is OK.
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
12-28-2007, 12:46 PM
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Upstate New York
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
I think if you stick with primary definitions,the common factor is a tresspass which is pretty specific. Once you open the term up to include more and more violations its meaning becomes more and more vague. Utimately to the point where we are now, i.e. any game violation.
12-28-2007, 12:47 PM
#37
Dominant Buck
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
If they are landowners they can get free tags for everyone in their family.
12-28-2007, 12:48 PM
#38
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
LOL No, just had my fill of "serious" conversation on this subject so I thought I'd have a little fun.
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
bruce ..... did you forget your meds today?[8D]
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
No, no, you are confused. It has to be a need to be a justified poach. Like, if it is raining really hard and your family is hungry but doesn't want hotdogs and you need red meat and there is a big fat doe in your backyard. THEN poaching is OK.
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
12-28-2007, 12:49 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Thanks for the clarification.
So if we're hungry but too lazy to go to the store and there's a nice doe crossing the field??
Save's on gas too![8D]
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
No, no, you are confused. It has to be a need to be a justified poach. Like, if it is raining really hard and your family is hungry but doesn't want hotdogs and you need red meat and there is a big fat doe in your backyard. THEN poaching is OK.
ORIGINAL: farmcntry
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
Well I can afford to feed my family by going to the grocery store, but if I CHOOSE to kill deer, turkey, etc out of season and feed them to my family am I ok then??
So if we're hungry but too lazy to go to the store and there's a nice doe crossing the field??
Save's on gas too![8D]
. You can't be lazy . Just if you need red meat and can't afford to buy it.
12-28-2007, 12:49 PM
#40
Dominant Buck
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RE: Do we REALLY view Poaching as a "crime"?
Someone PM'd me and mentioned "situation ethics".
OK.....OTHER THAN poaching to feed one's family....are there any other situations you might give a free pass to?
OK.....OTHER THAN poaching to feed one's family....are there any other situations you might give a free pass to?