New Bowhunting Law in IL
12-16-2007, 05:03 PM
#81
Boone & Crockett
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
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If that is true, can you not hit your deer with your stick bow when they are 20 yards and under?
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Yes, I can. If, and only if,I can draw the bow and execute the shot while remaining undetected.
If that is true, can you not hit your deer with your stick bow when they are 20 yards and under?
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Yes, I can. If, and only if,I can draw the bow and execute the shot while remaining undetected.
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So if that is true, which I assume it is, tell me why using a compound is easier than a traditional bow?
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Because with a high let-off compound, I can draw the bow with the animal coming in, or is passing behind a bush and wait for the shot.I don't have to wait until the deer is right there in front of me before I candraw. I drew my 80% let-off compound once and stood there for 5 minutes at full draw before I finally got bored and let down. Could've easily done at least a few more minutes. I certainly can't do that with a stickbow.
So if that is true, which I assume it is, tell me why using a compound is easier than a traditional bow?
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Because with a high let-off compound, I can draw the bow with the animal coming in, or is passing behind a bush and wait for the shot.I don't have to wait until the deer is right there in front of me before I candraw. I drew my 80% let-off compound once and stood there for 5 minutes at full draw before I finally got bored and let down. Could've easily done at least a few more minutes. I certainly can't do that with a stickbow.
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Isn't the challenge getting said animal at 20 yards?
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Not really, not when you are able to clip the cap off a pop bottle at 40 yards with an arrow and are set up over a field with a clean view all around. Or, in Texas at any rate, when you're hunting over a feeder - something I do not do, by the way - and have cleaned out a good shooting lane.
Isn't the challenge getting said animal at 20 yards?
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Not really, not when you are able to clip the cap off a pop bottle at 40 yards with an arrow and are set up over a field with a clean view all around. Or, in Texas at any rate, when you're hunting over a feeder - something I do not do, by the way - and have cleaned out a good shooting lane.
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I've missed deer at 16 yards with a compound, I probably could have hit said animal with a recurve, at least that's what shooting Matt / PA's recurve showed me so again, why do make the statement, compounds are easier?
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Surely you're not suggesting they aren't?? That'd cause the big compound manufacturers extraordinary hardship, lost sales and economic collapse if that rumor got around.
Go back and reread my previous answer.
I've missed deer at 16 yards with a compound, I probably could have hit said animal with a recurve, at least that's what shooting Matt / PA's recurve showed me so again, why do make the statement, compounds are easier?
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Surely you're not suggesting they aren't?? That'd cause the big compound manufacturers extraordinary hardship, lost sales and economic collapse if that rumor got around.
Go back and reread my previous answer.
So if I read it all right,
in stickbow ranges, stickbows are easier, beyond stickbow ranges, compounds are easier...now were getting into the guns are easier than bows beyond compound ranges etc that I saw so many people slamming GMMAT and others for saying. Kinda a hypocrasy (sp).
12-16-2007, 05:05 PM
#82
Typical Buck
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
schultzy you still have not answered my questions. You also made an accuation about my knowledge so I ask for you to educate me but you seem to refuse. Could that be your blowing smoke and do not know much yourself and only want to try to make yourself look better.
Stilll looking for the answer to my questions .......... in case you have missed them, I posted them many times.
Stilll looking for the answer to my questions .......... in case you have missed them, I posted them many times.
12-16-2007, 05:20 PM
#83
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
Guys
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter
With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deer
Hunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter
With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deerHunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
12-16-2007, 05:23 PM
#84
Typical Buck
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Germ
Guys
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deer
Hunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
Guys
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter
With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deerHunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
12-16-2007, 06:36 PM
#86
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
in stickbow ranges, stickbows are easier, beyond stickbow ranges, compounds are easier...now were getting into the guns are easier than bows beyond compound ranges etc that I saw so many people slamming GMMAT and others for saying. Kinda a hypocrasy (sp).
Guns really are a lot easier than bows. Just a cursory glance at hunter success ratios prove it. They also prove that compounds are a loteasier than traditional bows. What they do not prove is that crossbows are easier than compounds. The figures I've seen from official DNR records show success rates for compounds and crossbows to be virtually identical, within a couple 10ths of a percent.
So, for someone who slams crossbows saying they are much easier than his compound, then you really do have someone who is either sadly misinformed or is guilty of a base hypocracy.
12-16-2007, 06:42 PM
#87
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
I know AP, I was talking out loud and making a general observation.
I have the utmost respect for you and your knowledge. I appreciate your input here as well. Just reflecting and making a couple points.
I have the utmost respect for you and your knowledge. I appreciate your input here as well. Just reflecting and making a couple points.
12-16-2007, 07:16 PM
#88
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
I would not use a xbow in a tree for all the tea in china
They are big and clumsey, I can say for sure I would have not shot my last 3 bucks with one in the tree. Shots were behind me.
I hunt with the bow that brings me the most enjoyment. Sitting in a tree thinking "Can I get this bow back" is no fun at all IMO.
I will be honest, if x-bows were legal in MI I would use one on the ground in MY CRP field. For the simple fact I can shoot for my belly.
They are big and clumsey, I can say for sure I would have not shot my last 3 bucks with one in the tree. Shots were behind me.
I hunt with the bow that brings me the most enjoyment. Sitting in a tree thinking "Can I get this bow back" is no fun at all IMO.
I will be honest, if x-bows were legal in MI I would use one on the ground in MY CRP field. For the simple fact I can shoot for my belly.
12-16-2007, 07:22 PM
#89
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
Posts: 2,520
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Germ
Guys
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deer
Hunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
Guys
All this is going to do is help get some guys hunting again, that is it. I really could give a rats butt what anyone shoots. Hunting is suppose to be fun.
Tonight I hunted from the ground in 10 degree weather, what weapon I had really did not matter
With a Long bow, Compound or cross bow I still would have got 0 deerHunting is suppose to be fun, if you like it hard, great, if some want it easier, great.
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