New Bowhunting Law in IL
12-16-2007, 08:55 PM
#91
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Germ
I would not use a xbow in a tree for all the tea in china
They are big and clumsey, I can say for sure I would have not shot my last 3 bucks with one in the tree. Shots were behind me.
I hunt with the bow that brings me the most enjoyment. Sitting in a tree thinking "Can I get this bow back" is no fun at all IMO.
I will be honest, if x-bows were legal in MI I would use one on the ground in MY CRP field. For the simple fact I can shoot for my belly.
I would not use a xbow in a tree for all the tea in china
They are big and clumsey, I can say for sure I would have not shot my last 3 bucks with one in the tree. Shots were behind me.
I hunt with the bow that brings me the most enjoyment. Sitting in a tree thinking "Can I get this bow back" is no fun at all IMO.
I will be honest, if x-bows were legal in MI I would use one on the ground in MY CRP field. For the simple fact I can shoot for my belly.
12-16-2007, 10:09 PM
#92
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
I guess your arguement is so great and full of truths that you have to get into NAME CALLING. Just shows what your class is like. BTW I am not ignorant and I know where your coming from. Your from the mentality of NOT IN MY WOODS< I DO NOT WANT ANY MROE HUNTERS IOUT HERE WITH ME SHOOTING MY DEER. I have asked many questions on here that noone seems to want to answer. By the way, compounds should be class the same as crossbows because both give the shooter equal advantages (although different advantages) over the recurve and longbow. IF you can't see that then your blinded by greed (the fascts will support my statements).
I will restate this post and question that everyone seems to forget about.
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ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
........ I wonder if the abled body person would complain if they were required to get these forms filled out (same costs and time requirements) just to say that they were physically fit to use the vertical archery equipment they choose to use.
But like I said, if you want to debate compound/crossbow, start another thread.
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LIke I said in that above post. How would the abled body person behave if that was applied to them. Why should the disabled be put through all of that when the abled body hunter is not. Is that not discrimination ............ Unfortantly it is so. Even your surpreme Court has ruled that it is. Just to make it the same for everyone that hunts with archery (not just for the the disabled which want the use of crossbows), I think that everyone should have to get the medical form fill out to hunt with archery. For the abled body people, they get a form saying that they are physically fit enough to use a vertical bow and the disabled get one saying that they are not physically fit so they can use the crossbow.
I honestly do not think that it is fair for the abled body person not to have to go through all of that when the disabled has to. because of this blantant discrimination, it whould be opened up for everyone, unless the abled body person has to get a medical exam, the same as the disabled to say that they can physically hunt with their choice of bow.
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
................... Your to ignorant to understand what i'm trying to say! I can understand what your saying about being disabled and wanting to shoot a crossbow, thats understandable! Your way to ignorant to see where i'm coming from though!
................... Your to ignorant to understand what i'm trying to say! I can understand what your saying about being disabled and wanting to shoot a crossbow, thats understandable! Your way to ignorant to see where i'm coming from though!
I will restate this post and question that everyone seems to forget about.
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ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
........ I wonder if the abled body person would complain if they were required to get these forms filled out (same costs and time requirements) just to say that they were physically fit to use the vertical archery equipment they choose to use.
But like I said, if you want to debate compound/crossbow, start another thread.
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LIke I said in that above post. How would the abled body person behave if that was applied to them. Why should the disabled be put through all of that when the abled body hunter is not. Is that not discrimination ............ Unfortantly it is so. Even your surpreme Court has ruled that it is. Just to make it the same for everyone that hunts with archery (not just for the the disabled which want the use of crossbows), I think that everyone should have to get the medical form fill out to hunt with archery. For the abled body people, they get a form saying that they are physically fit enough to use a vertical bow and the disabled get one saying that they are not physically fit so they can use the crossbow.
I will even break it down more for you, Tryclaming you won the lottery and go and try to get the money on just your word.
So far you have used the handicapped (Who can hunt with the Xbow during the regular archery season with a permit), the elderly, and the poor to try and cram the xbow into the regular archery season, have you no shame.
I got you pegged for a Excalibur Rep!!
Oh and the SupremeCourt crap you keep twisting up to suit yourself has nothing to do with putting a Xbow in our archery season. Does it now.
12-16-2007, 10:15 PM
#93
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southeastern Michigan
Posts: 225
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
I don't see how this isa problem for so many people! Its obvoius that people in this worldare selfish,have no compassion for others, and little respect for the elderly! Even if they could pull back a bow, why not make it easier forsomeone this old tocontinue to enjoy life in the outdoors?If they've lived to be 62 years old, I say they deserve to have an advantage, eventhough, I don't think its that much of an advantage in the first place!
Bottom line is that it doesn't really effect anyone, but some people just enjoy being haters!
Bottom line is that it doesn't really effect anyone, but some people just enjoy being haters!
12-17-2007, 07:22 AM
#95
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: H.R., Virginia
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RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Michbowhunter
I don't see how this isa problem for so many people! Its obvoius that people in this worldare selfish,have no compassion for others, and little respect for the elderly! Even if they could pull back a bow, why not make it easier forsomeone this old tocontinue to enjoy life in the outdoors?If they've lived to be 62 years old, I say they deserve to have an advantage, eventhough, I don't think its that much of an advantage in the first place!
Bottom line is that it doesn't really effect anyone, but some people just enjoy being haters!
I don't see how this isa problem for so many people! Its obvoius that people in this worldare selfish,have no compassion for others, and little respect for the elderly! Even if they could pull back a bow, why not make it easier forsomeone this old tocontinue to enjoy life in the outdoors?If they've lived to be 62 years old, I say they deserve to have an advantage, eventhough, I don't think its that much of an advantage in the first place!
Bottom line is that it doesn't really effect anyone, but some people just enjoy being haters!
12-17-2007, 07:26 AM
#96
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 604
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker
Thought I was gone didn't ya! Look what all happend while I was gone, name calling,POPE & YOUNG bashing and you with this, will someone answer this question for me, like to drove me nuts when I was going over what I missed! Now I will answer the darn question for you. I am a licensed Guide it this state and I do have to take a Physical every 3 years only I have to prove I am healthy.Its called proof of burden. I have to prove I am Healthy to get my permit, and anyonewanting a XBow permit has to prove they are not.
I will even break it down more for you, Tryclaming you won the lottery and go and try to get the money on just your word.
So far you have used the handicapped (Who can hunt with the Xbow during the regular archery season with a permit), the elderly, and the poor to try and cram the xbow into the regular archery season, have you no shame.
I got you pegged for a Excalibur Rep!!
Oh and the SupremeCourt crap you keep twisting up to suit yourself has nothing to do with putting a Xbow in our archery season. Does it now.
Thought I was gone didn't ya! Look what all happend while I was gone, name calling,POPE & YOUNG bashing and you with this, will someone answer this question for me, like to drove me nuts when I was going over what I missed! Now I will answer the darn question for you. I am a licensed Guide it this state and I do have to take a Physical every 3 years only I have to prove I am healthy.Its called proof of burden. I have to prove I am Healthy to get my permit, and anyonewanting a XBow permit has to prove they are not.
I will even break it down more for you, Tryclaming you won the lottery and go and try to get the money on just your word.
So far you have used the handicapped (Who can hunt with the Xbow during the regular archery season with a permit), the elderly, and the poor to try and cram the xbow into the regular archery season, have you no shame.
I got you pegged for a Excalibur Rep!!
Oh and the SupremeCourt crap you keep twisting up to suit yourself has nothing to do with putting a Xbow in our archery season. Does it now.
Oh and the SupremeCourt crap you keep twisting up to suit yourself has nothing to do with putting a Xbow in our archery season. Does it now.
You still did not answer my question. I did not ask you if you had a physical, I asked what would happen if every abled body person had to go through the same physical as a disabled body would have to just to be able to hunt. DO NOT SIDE STEP THE QUESTION. You also stated that I knew nothing about the Pope & Yopung so I asked you to educate me, but you seem to forgot to do that, but contimue to call me a pope & young basher, I just said that I would not support them, I would rather support other organizations because I believe that they are more interested in keeping their membership up (more money for them) then they are in promoting hunting.
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ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
........ I wonder if the abled body person would complain if they were required to get these forms filled out (same costs and time requirements) just to say that they were physically fit to use the vertical archery equipment they choose to use.
But like I said, if you want to debate compound/crossbow, start another thread.
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LIke I said in that above post. How would the abled body person behave if that was applied to them. Why should the disabled be put through all of that when the abled body hunter is not. Is that not discrimination ............ Unfortantly it is so. Even your surpreme Court has ruled that it is. Just to make it the same for everyone that hunts with archery (not just for the the disabled which want the use of crossbows), I think that everyone should have to get the medical form fill out to hunt with archery. For the abled body people, they get a form saying that they are physically fit enough to use a vertical bow and the disabled get one saying that they are not physically fit so they can use the crossbow.
12-17-2007, 09:48 AM
#97
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,288
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
Come on Grumpy, Its been that way all my life, and yours too, if any individual wants something you have to prove in one way or another you qualify for it.
Now instead of arguing with me on this forum, you should be trying to get it where the disabled are reimbursed for any fees obtained while getting their permit!
But seeings how you live in Ontario Canada where the healthy, disabiled, old, and poor can all hunt with a X bow without a physical and dont need a permit to do so !!!!
Well, you know what I think!
Now instead of arguing with me on this forum, you should be trying to get it where the disabled are reimbursed for any fees obtained while getting their permit!
But seeings how you live in Ontario Canada where the healthy, disabiled, old, and poor can all hunt with a X bow without a physical and dont need a permit to do so !!!!
Well, you know what I think!
12-17-2007, 10:07 AM
#98
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Findlay, Ohio
Posts: 3,286
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Hotburn76
Would that be the cheap blinds with the open windows, or the ones that are real hard to use with the shoot through mesh! LOL!! But at least if a guy behind the curtain is using a compound he must be a real man!!
Edit to add:
Forgot to add that Shoot through blinds are ok since it only gives the current hunter a advantage. It does not create the chance of competition from another hunter, therefore the advantage is not discussed and kept quite.
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Should blinds and treestands be made illegal for the same advantage?
Steve
Should blinds and treestands be made illegal for the same advantage?
Steve
Edit to add:
Forgot to add that Shoot through blinds are ok since it only gives the current hunter a advantage. It does not create the chance of competition from another hunter, therefore the advantage is not discussed and kept quite.
Also a big thanks to the people that have showed support to the use of the CB, alot of the names have surprised me.
12-17-2007, 10:30 AM
#99
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter
Just read about a new law on the books in IL. Anyone 62 years of age or older can bowhunt with a cross bow without having to get a medical excuse. Just have proof of age and buy the permit.
Not sure why this is needed.
Just read about a new law on the books in IL. Anyone 62 years of age or older can bowhunt with a cross bow without having to get a medical excuse. Just have proof of age and buy the permit.
Not sure why this is needed.
Paul
12-17-2007, 10:32 AM
#100
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 604
RE: New Bowhunting Law in IL
ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker
Come on Grumpy, Its been that way all my life, and yours too, if any individual wants something you have to prove in one way or another you qualify for it.
Now instead of arguing with me on this forum, you should be trying to get it where the disabled are reimbursed for any fees obtained while getting their permit!
But seeings how you live in Ontario Canada where the healthy, disabiled, old, and poor can all hunt with a X bow without a physical and dont need a permit to do so !!!!
Well, you know what I think!
Come on Grumpy, Its been that way all my life, and yours too, if any individual wants something you have to prove in one way or another you qualify for it.
Now instead of arguing with me on this forum, you should be trying to get it where the disabled are reimbursed for any fees obtained while getting their permit!
But seeings how you live in Ontario Canada where the healthy, disabiled, old, and poor can all hunt with a X bow without a physical and dont need a permit to do so !!!!
Well, you know what I think!
Yes I do live in Ontario where it is legal for anyone to use the crossbow as a choice and we have a growing problem with deer population. It has not hurt our deer herd at all. Why do I fight for the rights of the disabled ........... because people like you fight to disclude them from activities that they love and want to continue. Just because there is a boarder between you and me, to me does not matter, you see, ignorance and discrimination has no boarders.
But I guess that because I live in Ontario, I do not have a right to fight for someone that has disabilities. BTW, many Americans have thanked me for sticking up for there rights and or their loved ones rights. They also thank me for proving that the lies from the anti's were just that LIES
Why is it that noone wants to answer the question of :
ORIGINAL: GrumpyTom
........ I wonder if the abled body person would complain if they were required to get these forms filled out (same costs and time requirements) just to say that they were physically fit to use the vertical archery equipment they choose to use.
But like I said, if you want to debate compound/crossbow, start another thread.
........ I wonder if the abled body person would complain if they were required to get these forms filled out (same costs and time requirements) just to say that they were physically fit to use the vertical archery equipment they choose to use.
But like I said, if you want to debate compound/crossbow, start another thread.