Is ther any evidence AR's work??
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Is ther any evidence AR's work??
I would love to see AR's here in MA butdo you PA guys know if it has worked. I don't mean just a gut feeling, but does the Game Dept or harvest records support the theory??
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RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
I read an article in what I believe was Deer and Deer Hunting a while ago. The author described how the AR's have historically not worked. He used examples all the way back to the mid 1900's with Mule deer and onto present day examples.
I personally shoot a deer based on age, not the amount of points on his rack. It would be a shame IMO to let a stud 3.5 yr. old 6 or 7 pointer walk by because he was not a legal buck. Also, harvesting a doe for every buck to me is nearly as important as passing on younger bucks. I do remember my dad starting me out when I was a young kid and I was so excited to shoot those first few small bucks. I would hate to see a young hunter deprived of that thrill by seeing a young buck walking by and not being able to take the shot. I hunted hard for my first buck and it took me until my 4th season at the age of 14 to harvest that first 3 pointer. My dad never tried to force me to pass on smaller bucks as he did, but overtime I have turned my focus to trying to harvest wallhangers. I don't kill a buck every year, but I still put meat in the freezer with a few does each season.
I am interested in hearing some opinions too. Illinois does not have AR's, but I have heard grumbles from hunters about needing some.
I personally shoot a deer based on age, not the amount of points on his rack. It would be a shame IMO to let a stud 3.5 yr. old 6 or 7 pointer walk by because he was not a legal buck. Also, harvesting a doe for every buck to me is nearly as important as passing on younger bucks. I do remember my dad starting me out when I was a young kid and I was so excited to shoot those first few small bucks. I would hate to see a young hunter deprived of that thrill by seeing a young buck walking by and not being able to take the shot. I hunted hard for my first buck and it took me until my 4th season at the age of 14 to harvest that first 3 pointer. My dad never tried to force me to pass on smaller bucks as he did, but overtime I have turned my focus to trying to harvest wallhangers. I don't kill a buck every year, but I still put meat in the freezer with a few does each season.
I am interested in hearing some opinions too. Illinois does not have AR's, but I have heard grumbles from hunters about needing some.
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Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
Maybe to a point they're guaranteed to work. It'll allow a lot of 4 pointers to become 2 1/2 years old. What it does do that's wrong... is allows genetically inferior deer to survive and breed passing on their genes. But, I don't worry about such things as we don't have them here.
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RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
I love them. They don't make big bucks grow on trees, but they do help, and make a bunch of 2.5 year olds that hopefully are a littlemore capable of getting thru to an older age.
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RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
I, withoutquestion, see more bigger bucks in my area of Pa, since they started antler restrictions. So, I believe it works.This doesn't help our out of whack doe to buck ratio though. I think they should start "earn a buck" in my area (5-D).
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Typical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: central PA
Posts: 525
RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
I am seeing a lot more larger bucks than what i used to.For example, last year me, my dad, and SamPahunter were hunting together and we all tagged out out 8 points or better by 9:30 on the first morning (they were all 3.5 yr. old+).
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RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
ORIGINAL: davidmil
Maybe to a point they're guaranteed to work. It'll allow a lot of 4 pointers to become 2 1/2 years old. What it does do that's wrong... is allows genetically inferior deer to survive and breed passing on their genes. But, I don't worry about such things as we don't have them here.
Maybe to a point they're guaranteed to work. It'll allow a lot of 4 pointers to become 2 1/2 years old. What it does do that's wrong... is allows genetically inferior deer to survive and breed passing on their genes. But, I don't worry about such things as we don't have them here.
btw Planter do you have that article? I would like to read it
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RE: Is ther any evidence AR's work??
ORIGINAL: crazedbowhunter
I am seeing a lot more larger bucks than what i used to.For example, last year me, my dad, and SamPahunter were hunting together and we all tagged out out 8 points or better by 9:30 on the first morning (they were all 3.5 yr. old+).
I am seeing a lot more larger bucks than what i used to.For example, last year me, my dad, and SamPahunter were hunting together and we all tagged out out 8 points or better by 9:30 on the first morning (they were all 3.5 yr. old+).