Would you rather????
11-19-2007, 11:32 AM
#21
Dominant Buck
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RE: Would you rather????
Here's a scenario, GR8.....and we'll see how "competent" you are.
Greg/MOinvites you to go hunting with him in "his" woods. You've never stepped foot into them....and you're going for the hunt in the morning. Where are you gonna set up?
That's right......RIGHT where he tells you to (general area). Now....if you take a deer, there.....who "won"? Is your level of accomplishment satisfied? Or....did you just "shoot" the deer?
If I don't have time to familiarize myself over a period of time, on a tract of land.....I'm relying on someone else to take care of the "hunting" for me. It's got nothing to do with the "security blanket" of one's honey hole. The game, TO ME, is the hunt.....and not the "shoot". It took me over a year to find the deer on the small tracts I hunt. I went to Rob's woods and sat in the general area he told me to. Where's the sense of accomplishment if I took a nice animal? Nothing against it.....it is what it is.....and I enjoyed it. BUT.....give me a 100" 8 pointer in my woods......vs. a 125" 8 pointer in Rob's......and I think you know which one I'd savor, more.
The one "I" HUNTED and "I" found......and "I" set up on.
If you're hunting different parcels and you're doing your own sets.....then your hunting "your woods".
Greg/MOinvites you to go hunting with him in "his" woods. You've never stepped foot into them....and you're going for the hunt in the morning. Where are you gonna set up?
That's right......RIGHT where he tells you to (general area). Now....if you take a deer, there.....who "won"? Is your level of accomplishment satisfied? Or....did you just "shoot" the deer?
If I don't have time to familiarize myself over a period of time, on a tract of land.....I'm relying on someone else to take care of the "hunting" for me. It's got nothing to do with the "security blanket" of one's honey hole. The game, TO ME, is the hunt.....and not the "shoot". It took me over a year to find the deer on the small tracts I hunt. I went to Rob's woods and sat in the general area he told me to. Where's the sense of accomplishment if I took a nice animal? Nothing against it.....it is what it is.....and I enjoyed it. BUT.....give me a 100" 8 pointer in my woods......vs. a 125" 8 pointer in Rob's......and I think you know which one I'd savor, more.
The one "I" HUNTED and "I" found......and "I" set up on.If you're hunting different parcels and you're doing your own sets.....then your hunting "your woods".
11-19-2007, 11:38 AM
#22
Join Date: Sep 2007
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RE: Would you rather????
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Here's a scenario, GR8.....and we'll see how "competent" you are.
Greg/MOinvites you to go hunting with him in "his" woods. You've never stepped foot into them....and you're going for the hunt in the morning. Where are you gonna set up?
That's right......RIGHT where he tells you to (general area). Now....if you take a deer, there.....who "won"? Is your level of accomplishment satisfied? Or....did you just "shoot" the deer?
If I don't have time to familiarize myself over a period of time, on a tract of land.....I'm relying on someone else to take care of the "hunting" for me. It's got nothing to do with the "security blanket" of one's honey hole. The game, TO ME, is the hunt.....and not the "shoot". It took me over a year to find the deer on the small tracts I hunt. I went to Rob's woods and sat in the general area he told me to. Where's the sense of accomplishment if I took a nice animal? Nothing against it.....it is what it is.....and I enjoyed it. BUT.....give me a 100" 8 pointer in my woods......vs. a 125" 8 pointer in Rob's......and I think you know which one I'd savor, more. The one "I" HUNTED and "I" found......and "I" set up on.
If you're hunting different parcels and you're doing your own sets.....then your hunting "your woods".
Here's a scenario, GR8.....and we'll see how "competent" you are.
Greg/MOinvites you to go hunting with him in "his" woods. You've never stepped foot into them....and you're going for the hunt in the morning. Where are you gonna set up?
That's right......RIGHT where he tells you to (general area). Now....if you take a deer, there.....who "won"? Is your level of accomplishment satisfied? Or....did you just "shoot" the deer?
If I don't have time to familiarize myself over a period of time, on a tract of land.....I'm relying on someone else to take care of the "hunting" for me. It's got nothing to do with the "security blanket" of one's honey hole. The game, TO ME, is the hunt.....and not the "shoot". It took me over a year to find the deer on the small tracts I hunt. I went to Rob's woods and sat in the general area he told me to. Where's the sense of accomplishment if I took a nice animal? Nothing against it.....it is what it is.....and I enjoyed it. BUT.....give me a 100" 8 pointer in my woods......vs. a 125" 8 pointer in Rob's......and I think you know which one I'd savor, more.
The one "I" HUNTED and "I" found......and "I" set up on.If you're hunting different parcels and you're doing your own sets.....then your hunting "your woods".
11-19-2007, 11:41 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Would you rather????
It stands to reason if you have land in other states that you've probably scouted or at least been on this land before. No spin....if you live in MI and have land in OH....I'd consider BOTH "your woods".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
11-19-2007, 11:48 AM
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RE: Would you rather????
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
It stands to reason if you have land in other states that you've probably scouted or at least been on this land before. No spin....if you live in MI and have land in OH....I'd consider BOTH "your woods".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
It stands to reason if you have land in other states that you've probably scouted or at least been on this land before. No spin....if you live in MI and have land in OH....I'd consider BOTH "your woods".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
11-19-2007, 11:53 AM
#26
Dominant Buck
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RE: Would you rather????
Schultzy....I have no idea what you're talking about.
When most of you guys hunt out of state.....do you go early and scout the land? Do you buy aerial maps and plot out a strategy prior to arrival? Do you read the topos and derive a gameplan?
Or....do you sit where the outfitter, friend, landowner tells you is a "good spot"?
When most of you guys hunt out of state.....do you go early and scout the land? Do you buy aerial maps and plot out a strategy prior to arrival? Do you read the topos and derive a gameplan?
Or....do you sit where the outfitter, friend, landowner tells you is a "good spot"?
11-19-2007, 11:54 AM
#27
Join Date: Sep 2005
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RE: Would you rather????
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
It stands to reason if you have land in other states that you've probably scouted or at least been on this land before. No spin....if you live in MI and have land in OH....I'd consider BOTH "your woods".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
It stands to reason if you have land in other states that you've probably scouted or at least been on this land before. No spin....if you live in MI and have land in OH....I'd consider BOTH "your woods".
So.....for the sake of the original question....YES....other people are setting you up if you're hunting "other states".
I hunt a lot of other areas, almost totally DIY. I look at topo maps and satelite images before I go and try to locate the key bedding and feeding areas. Though I have never been there, I have already done a lot of the scouting myself.
Once I get to the new area, I most likely won't be hunting the first day. I'll spend it setting stands or quietly observing from a distance, to see if my pre trip scouting was correct. I would never consider this to be "My Woods" if I have ever been there before, but you may because someone is not telling me where to hunt.
As far as someone telling me where to hunt, I don't get a lot of joy out of it......which now seems to be what you are asking.
11-19-2007, 11:56 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Would you rather????
Yeah now you are changing the original post somewhat. I disagree 110% GMMAT. The hunt is waiting for and making the ethical shot, guessing the correct yardage, not making a noise and scaring the deer, waiting for the right shot angle, making the right tracking decisions after the shot, taking the time to hunt, not smelling up the woods, THAT is the hunt. Greg may have an idea if there are good bucks somewhere, or a particular buck,but no one in the world can predict a deers every step on any particular day especially when the rut starts kicking in. If he tells you to get in a stand and you smell,we missa shot as we all know happens,we makea noise, you move at the wrong moment etc, you misjudge the yardage, whatever, then it doesnt matter where Greg tells you to hunt even if he knows the exact steps that buck will take every day which unless they are fed deer seems unrealistic. You keep hunting in your woods, I'll go hunt all over North America, I was going to take you with me but forget it now!! [:-]
11-19-2007, 11:58 AM
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RE: Would you rather????
I do all of those mentioned, plot maps and arial photos. Then I hunt, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out where big deer will be moving. Funnels, bedding areas, edges.....being there when they are is the key. If I don't harvest a mature buck off a new spot I'm not worried there is always next year.